TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Jay Fiedler on those early 2000s Dolphins teams. Stacked defensively. Then they got Ricky Williams. Didn't matter though. They weren't going anywhere with Fiedler as the trigger man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, daineraider said: He sucked but I wouldn’t say he held us back, we were pretty bad with or without him. But my god..... literally throwing fumbles. I hated the pick at the time and all the reports from LSU. we were bad he helped make us legendary bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilflamingo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Kyle Williams in the 2011 NFC Championship game. His two ST fumbles set the Giants up for 10 of their total 20 points scored, including the game-winning FG in OT. Of course it didn't help that the offense converted just 1/13 third downs or that it took 54 minutes before Alex Smith completed his first pass to a WR, or that the refs robbed Bowman of a key forced fumble. But with any competent returner the 49ers win that game. That defense, despite not being able to cover Victor Cruz, was nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Jay cutler is another good one. Good defense terrible qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Jay Fiedler on those early 2000s Dolphins teams. Stacked defensively. Then they got Ricky Williams. Didn't matter though. They weren't going anywhere with Fiedler as the trigger man. Little jay even gave the Raiders a run for the money in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 kwame harris drafted to hold it down for the 49ers and he was scared and couldn’t block a fart. He let everyone in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 4 hours ago, game3525 said: Yup. Clausen almost ruined Steve Smith that year (544 yards in 14 games). Carolina drafts Cam and Smitty puts up 1300 yards. I was at the Panthers/Niners game in NC that year. Clausen was awful, he got hurt and Matt Moore came in for the win. I think that might have been the Panthers only win that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Gannon12 said: kwame harris drafted to hold it down for the 49ers and he was scared and couldn’t block a fart. He let everyone in But he could play the piano like a boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilflamingo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Gannon12 said: kwame harris drafted to hold it down for the 49ers and he was scared and couldn’t block a fart. He let everyone in Kwame Harris might be the best answer as he not only held his own team back, he also made sure to hold the other team's players on EVERY. F-IN. SNAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 hours ago, FourThreeMafia said: Marvin Lewis has held that team back more than Andy Dalton. indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, PapaShogun said: Jay Fiedler on those early 2000s Dolphins teams. Stacked defensively. Then they got Ricky Williams. Didn't matter though. They weren't going anywhere with Fiedler as the trigger man. Kinda, yes. They had very good records during the Fiedler Era, though. He threw too many INT's for run-based team. It's funny because Marino's last game as a Dolphin was a blowout playoff loss to JAX. Fiedler was the backup QB that game for JAX who got a significant amount of PT because it ws so lopsided. He'd then start for MIA the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, freak_of_nature said: Kinda, yes. They had very good records during the Fiedler Era, though. He threw too many INT's for run-based team. It's funny because Marino's last game as a Dolphin was a blowout playoff loss to JAX. Fiedler was the backup QB that game for JAX who got a significant amount of PT because it ws so lopsided. He'd then start for MIA the next season. Even if the Dolphins had an average starter at the time like Jon Kitna or Brad Johnson I think Miami would have been a force. The Dolphins had winning records at the time, and I think that was a testament to how good the team was in spite of Fiedler being the starter. Ravens had a similar problem at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, PapaShogun said: Jay Fiedler on those early 2000s Dolphins teams. Stacked defensively. Then they got Ricky Williams. Didn't matter though. They weren't going anywhere with Fiedler as the trigger man. Sam Madison, Brock Marion, and Patrick Surtain in the backfield with Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor in the front 7? That defense was scary. Had all-pro players at every level. Thankfully they did absolutely nothing with all that talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Even if the Dolphins had an average starter at the time like Jon Kitna or Brad Johnson I think Miami would have been a force. The Dolphins had winning records at the time, and I think that was a testament to how good the team was in spite of Fiedler being the starter. Ravens had a similar problem at the time. Probably. But they even won a playoff game with Fielder vs Manning's Colts. (which I attended) That was the last time they won a playoff game. They ran into those buzzsaw Ravens who beat the Giants in the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrenblue Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Kyle Boller. Ravens wasted prime years of Ray Lewis, Ogden and Ed Reed with this bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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