5th Down Depreciation Thread

[Pugger]

On 1/1/2019 at 7:46 PM, Gopher Trace said:

For a guy as Californian as he is, Rodgers is a pretty terrible actor in those commercials. That doofus Eli Manning actually does a better job at it in those Visa ads.

His role in these insurance commercials this year is very pedestrian.  He just stands there and says boring lines.  The goof who is playing his sports agent is dreadful IMO.  Somebody must have thought these were funny but they definitely are not.  The older ones AR did when he was the butt of the jokes were much better.

[hoekd0250]

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcedes-lewis-detailed-tension-aaron-rodgers-mike-mccarthy-green-bay-season-031440680.html

[AlexGreen#20]

2 minutes ago, hoekd0250 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/marcedes-lewis-detailed-tension-aaron-rodgers-mike-mccarthy-green-bay-season-031440680.html

That's scary stuff.

If Lewis who was on the field for 18% of plays saw that, I wonder what Linsley saw.

Changing a 4 minute clock kill drive to a deep bomb is ballsy call for a QB to make.

Anybody want to go through and check what game that would be? 

[Leader]

5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

That's scary stuff.

If Lewis who was on the field for 18% of plays saw that, I wonder what Linsley saw.

Changing a 4 minute clock kill drive to a deep bomb is ballsy call for a QB to make.

Anybody want to go through and check what game that would be? 

Thats not a good read at all. 

[squire12]

7 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

That's scary stuff.

If Lewis who was on the field for 18% of plays saw that, I wonder what Linsley saw.

Changing a 4 minute clock kill drive to a deep bomb is ballsy call for a QB to make.

Anybody want to go through and check what game that would be? 

Probably only 6 games to go through....6-9-1

[{Family Ghost}]

So, if Rodgers is changing plays and disobeying orders, why didn't McCarthy hold him to account?  I really don't get how these two got to that point .. makes no sense.  How should the next head coach handle Rodgers .. give him more responsibility, or take it away?  If Rodgers starts to disobey the new guy I think you start figuring out how to part ways with Aaron. 

 

[squire12]

13 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

That's scary stuff.

If Lewis who was on the field for 18% of plays saw that, I wonder what Linsley saw.

Changing a 4 minute clock kill drive to a deep bomb is ballsy call for a QB to make.

Anybody want to go through and check what game that would be? 

@AlexGreen#20  Buffalo, leading 19-0   3rd and 3, bomb to MVS for 38 yards.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00/passing-plays/2018/

Tm	Opp	Quarter ▼	Time	Down	ToGo	Location	Score	Detail	Yds	EPB	EPA	Diff
2018-12-23	Packers	Jets	5	6:28	1	16	NYJ 16	44-38	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep middle to Davante Adams for 16 yards, touchdown	16	4.310	6.000	1.69
2018-09-16	Packers	Vikings	5	6:04	1	10	MIN 46	29-29	Aaron Rodgers pass complete short right to Geronimo Allison for 9 yards (tackle by Trae Waynes)	9	2.520	3.190	.67
2018-09-16	Packers	Vikings	5	7:32	1	10	GNB 39	29-29	Aaron Rodgers pass complete short right to Davante Adams for 6 yards (tackle by Xavier Rhodes)	6	1.530	1.800	.27
2018-09-16	Packers	Vikings	5	4:34	3	4	MIN 40	29-29	Aaron Rodgers sacked by Mackensie Alexander for -7 yards	-7	2.080	0.130	-1.95
2018-09-09	Packers	Bears	4	2:29	3	10	GNB 25	23-23	Aaron Rodgers pass complete short middle to Randall Cobb for 75 yards, touchdown	75	-0.620	7.000	7.62
2018-11-15	Packers	Seahawks	4	11:23	3	9	GNB 26	21-20	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep right to Davante Adams for 57 yards (tackle by Shaquill Griffin)	57	-0.490	4.440	4.93
2018-10-07	Packers	Lions	4	0:19	2	5	GNB 23	20-31	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep left to Equanimeous St. Brown for 54 yards (tackle by Tracy Walker)	54	0.280	4.040	3.76
2018-09-09	Packers	Bears	4	11:20	2	10	GNB 25	10-20	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep left to Davante Adams for 51 yards (tackle by Prince Amukamara)	51	0.060	3.970	3.91
2018-12-23	Packers	Jets	4	12:53	3	11	GNB 38	20-35	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep left to Marquez Valdes-Scantling for 42 yards (tackle by Avery Williamson and Morris Claiborne)	42	0.170	4.240	4.07
2018-10-28	Packers	Rams	4	8:57	2	9	RAM 40	26-26	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep right to Marquez Valdes-Scantling for 40 yards, touchdown	40	2.440	7.000	4.56
2018-09-09	Packers	Bears	4	14:06	2	2	CHI 39	9-20	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep right to Geronimo Allison for 39 yards, touchdown	39	2.990	7.000	4.01
2018-09-30	Packers	Bills	4	4:09	3	3	GNB 34	19-0	Aaron Rodgers pass complete deep right to Marquez Valdes-Scantling for 38 yards (tackle by Ryan Lewis)

[{Family Ghost}]

That bills game has been pinpointed a few times .. Rodgers was very angry in the post game press conference .. thought they should have far more points .. wasn't a happy camper at all.  He took some shots at McCarthy that day.  Seems that game was a turning point of sorts. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by {Family Ghost}

[Shanedorf]

If you recall, the post-Buffalo presser with AR was the one where he went off about the offense

https://www.packers.com/video/rodgers-displeased-with-offensive-output-against-bills

Starts at the 1:33 mark

Edited January 4, 2019 by Shanedorf

[Leader]

2 minutes ago, Shanedorf said:

If you recall, the post-Buffalo presser with AR was the one where he went off about the offense

Could it be this?

3rd & 3 at GB 34

(4:09 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass deep right to M.Valdes-Scantling to BUF 28 for 38 yards (R.Lewis).

[squire12]

3 minutes ago, Shanedorf said:

If you recall, the post-Buffalo presser with AR was the one where he went off about the offense

Yup.

Looking through the pro football reference link, there was a pass to Kendricks on 2 and 8 in the 4th against MIA.  went for 18 yards.  I think those are the only 2 options.

[incognito_man]

I mean, I'm looking to jump on Rodgers for any of this crap but that Lewis article doesn't sound like much of anything to me

Keep in mind that Lewis was in Jacksonville for forever where his QBs couldn't even audible probably

[squire12]

Just now, incognito_man said:

I mean, I'm looking to jump on Rodgers for any of this crap but that Lewis article doesn't sound like much of anything to me

Keep in mind that Lewis was in Jacksonville for forever where his QBs couldn't even audible probably

I feel it is not so much the audible, but potentially the reaction and tone that Rodgers might have displayed in the huddle

[Leader]

1 minute ago, incognito_man said:

I mean, I'm looking to jump on Rodgers for any of this crap but that Lewis article doesn't sound like much of anything to me

Keep in mind that Lewis was in Jacksonville for forever where his QBs couldn't even audible probably

Lewis doesnt know what the play is coming in - or that it was changed. For it to have gone public thru Lewis means it was a topic of locker room conversation.

[incognito_man]

2 minutes ago, Leader said:

Lewis doesnt know what the play is coming in - or that it was changed. For it to have gone public thru Lewis means it was a topic of locker room conversation.

Rodgers went public with it right after the game.

Just saying, I don't see any new insight there that we all didn't know already?

THought everyone knew Rodgers did this stuff.