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Giants officially cut OT Ereck Flowers; Signed by Jaguars

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4 hours ago, ET80 said:

Not this time - he's in that 5% of guys who simply suck. No type of coaching would save him.

how did he drafted so high in RD1 or even in the first few rounds at all ?

 

3 hours ago, Elky said:

Todd Gurley probably would have helped their backfield.

Leveon bell is available , will the Giants make the call? 

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9 minutes ago, 3rivers said:

how did he drafted so high in RD1 or even in the first few rounds at all ?

Measurables and great college program - people assume if you're a great athlete and played at The U, you're going to be great. Or, they were good in college, went Pro and realized it's 100x the work for 10x the pay (because these guys get paid in college - let's not fool ourselves).

Same thing happened with a ton of guys who busted out hard - Vernon Gholston, Greg Robinson, Luke Joeckel, Glenn Dorsey, Aaron Curry, Justin Gilbert - athletic guys with college pedigrees and good (if not great) production in college, but sqaut in the Pros.

We ould probably go on for days. Weeks, even.

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2 hours ago, ET80 said:

Measurables and great college program - people assume if you're a great athlete and played at The U, you're going to be great. Or, they were good in college, went Pro and realized it's 100x the work for 10x the pay (because these guys get paid in college - let's not fool ourselves).

Same thing happened with a ton of guys who busted out hard - Vernon Gholston, Greg Robinson, Luke Joeckel, Glenn Dorsey, Aaron Curry, Justin Gilbert - athletic guys with college pedigrees and good (if not great) production in college, but sqaut in the Pros.

We ould probably go on for days. Weeks, even.

it happens to everyone. I am not aware of PFF having a stat for draft waste percentage, not yet anyways :ph34r: I am familiar RD1 fails in recent years, the key is to not have many in a few years on the same side . Having RD1 fails as guaranteed starters for 4 years is quite a waste as I have learned in recent time. Thats where a no nonsense coach is needed, and tells the GM get this player out of here and move on.  Thats it memory serves  O.o

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5 minutes ago, .Buzz said:

 

Have these teams seen him play? I'm really floored that he potentially has a competitive market between more than 2 teams. 

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1 minute ago, Forge said:

Have these teams seen him play? I'm really floored that he potentially has a competitive market between more than 2 teams. 

Yeah idk, he's youngish and OL depth throughout the league isn't good. Some team may think they can get something out of him.

Not a ton of risk to giving him a shot. Worst case, cut him. These teams don't have a lot invested in him like NYG.

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On 10/8/2018 at 9:00 PM, JaguarCrazy2832 said:

Is he really that bad? Our OT situation is awful now

He's lazy. Isn't a matter of talent, because he has a lot of that, but talent doesn't matter if you don't correct the small mistakes in technique or prepare for your weekly opponents.

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2 hours ago, Forge said:

Have these teams seen him play? I'm really floored that he potentially has a competitive market between more than 2 teams. 

Probably want to interview him, see if they think they can get him motivated

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17 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said:

Maybe Pat Flaherty can work some magic with him.

we are down our starting and backup LT. 

Pat Flaherty had a chance to work magic with him his rookie year and didn't.

He's getting looks because he is a former top-10 pick and still 24. But he is done. He's had 4 years and the help of 3 different OL coaches to fix the issues that have persisted since college and has made, literally, 0 progress. If you have a minute, look up what former Giants and especially former Giants OL and what they say about Flowers. To paraphrase Geoff Schwartz, "he doesn't care". He works hard in practice and the weight room, but puts no extra effort necessary to get truly better.

It makes sense that his first visit was the Jaguars. Reports out of the Giants war room in 2015 were that Coughlin was giddy with the Flowers pick. Jerry Reese gets the blame, but it sounds like it was a joint effort.

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He's fat lazy and unmotivated. Someone will try and see if they can get him to work for it and he'll steal some more money before he quietly is put of football.

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I still remember him being drafted in the first, I think at the time it was considered a bit of a reach and more of a "he has great potential" type of pick. Well, when those kinds of players don't pan out.. 

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