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Week 8 GDT - Green Bay (3-2-1) @ Los Angeles Rams (7-0)


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1 hour ago, 66PinG said:

Enjoy it while you can.

as soon as the Rams have to pay Goff his real value it will be difficult to maintain.

Prime example being the Seahawks..

what is the difference between the Rams and the Seahawks of 3-5 years ago?

nothing, except that I actually like the Rams, always have. One of my favorites, right after the Browns and way after my Packers.

Seahawks also started drafting terribly and trading premium picks for veterans who didn't really pan out. We've tended to draft really well of late. If our drafting falls apart, I think you'll be right. Frankly, I think we have to find a way to hold onto Aaron Kromer. He's been able to plug in guys who were thought of as JAGs and get very good play out of them (case in point, Austin Blythe).

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1 hour ago, jrry32 said:

Seahawks also started drafting terribly and trading premium picks for veterans who didn't really pan out. We've tended to draft really well of late. If our drafting falls apart, I think you'll be right. Frankly, I think we have to find a way to hold onto Aaron Kromer. He's been able to plug in guys who were thought of as JAGs and get very good play out of them (case in point, Austin Blythe).

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2013 they traded for Harvin. 
2014 they traded back and drafted Paul Richardson and Cassius March.
2015 was the Jimmy Graham trade.

None of those players are still with the team. 

Also, their OL has been in a constant state of suck.

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Rams feasted on some real low-level teams this year. Its not their fault that those teams suck...and they didn't make out the schedule

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/2018.htm

So.... how did the better teams fare against the Ram - a- Lama- Ding- Dongs ?

The vikes put up 31 points
the seahawks put up 31 points
The Chargers scored 23 points

Seems like the Packers will be able to score some points on Sunday.
On the other side of the ball, the Rams scored a lot of points themselves
Will Mike Pettine's crew be up to the task ? That's why he was brought in. And the Packers are pretty healthy and somewhat rested. The Packers defenders and coaches have had 6 games to assimilate the new defense + a bye week to prepare. Can't ask for much more than that

The Zimmers gave up 38 points
The Legion of Gloom gave up 33 points
The chargers defense gave up 35 points to the Rams and the Broncos managed to hold them to 23 points, in Denver

I'm thinking Packers defense just needs to "hold" the Rams to around 28-30 points, below their season average of 33.6/ game.

That's not an insurmountable task

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2 hours ago, jrry32 said:

Seahawks also started drafting terribly and trading premium picks for veterans who didn't really pan out. We've tended to draft really well of late. If our drafting falls apart, I think you'll be right. Frankly, I think we have to find a way to hold onto Aaron Kromer. He's been able to plug in guys who were thought of as JAGs and get very good play out of them (case in point, Austin Blythe).

That is what happens once a team gets to the top of the conference.  It becomes hard to keep filling the roster drafting lower than mid 20's as picks are harder to evaluate and hit on, your own guys start wanting the huge contracts, the hunger leaves, and the team starts to slide.

Rams will be fine until Goff gets through year 5, but the contract he will likely get won't support the roster talent they currently have.  

Rams are entering the time at the top of the curve.  Enjoy it, because the NFL makes it hard for it to last.

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34 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said:

That is what happens once a team gets to the top of the conference.  It becomes hard to keep filling the roster drafting lower than mid 20's as picks are harder to evaluate and hit on, your own guys start wanting the huge contracts, the hunger leaves, and the team starts to slide.

That is why what the Packers have done for 26 years is so impressive.  

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When the Packers were faced with playing The Williams Wall from minny, they had to find a way to beat Fat Pat Williams and Kevin Williams, 2 stud DTs

I do remember GB running wide early and often to start the game - in an effort to tire out the Big Guys. Make em move laterally. Repeatedly
Is that still a viable strategy with Donald/Suh manning the middle of the Rams DL ?

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Just now, Shanedorf said:

Is that still a viable strategy with Donald/Suh manning the middle of the Rams DL ?

Absolutely.  With Jones.  We'll try it three times with Williams and Montgomery.  Montgomery will get hurt, Williams will get negative three yards and then we'll never do it again. 

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2 minutes ago, Golfman said:

Do the Rams have no one on the injury report or is NFL.com just not posting it. We are coming off a bye week and have a long list of guys on ours. 

Rams had Brockers, Kupp and Suh listed as DNP yesterday.  Not seeing anything other than Kupp is doubtful.  

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54 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said:

That is what happens once a team gets to the top of the conference.  It becomes hard to keep filling the roster drafting lower than mid 20's as picks are harder to evaluate and hit on, your own guys start wanting the huge contracts, the hunger leaves, and the team starts to slide.

Rams will be fine until Goff gets through year 5, but the contract he will likely get won't support the roster talent they currently have.  

Rams are entering the time at the top of the curve.  Enjoy it, because the NFL makes it hard for it to last.

Well, due to our trades (including the Goff trade), we haven't had a lot of top picks the last three years. We've still come away with a number of productive players in the middle rounds (Kupp, Johnson, Ebukam, Cooper, JFM, etc.). It's impossible to project how we'll draft in the future. Our drafting could fall apart. However, based on how we've drafted under Snead and McVay, I feel good about our chances.

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8 minutes ago, Shanedorf said:

When the Packers were faced with playing The Williams Wall from minny, they had to find a way to beat Fat Pat Williams and Kevin Williams, 2 stud DTs

I do remember GB running wide early and often to start the game - in an effort to tire out the Big Guys. Make em move laterally. Repeatedly
Is that still a viable strategy with Donald/Suh manning the middle of the Rams DL ?

I don't think it would be as effective against our guys. Donald moves extremely well laterally and can chase those plays down. He's very well conditioned (which is understandable if you look at him haha).

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23 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

Well, due to our trades (including the Goff trade), we haven't had a lot of top picks the last three years. We've still come away with a number of productive players in the middle rounds (Kupp, Johnson, Ebukam, Cooper, JFM, etc.). It's impossible to project how we'll draft in the future. Our drafting could fall apart. However, based on how we've drafted under Snead and McVay, I feel good about our chances.

You should at this point.

Packers got a number of productive players with mid round picks- Tretter, Hyde, Heyward- it becomes hard to keep them as they mature due to the salary cap.  The guys that make your team really tough though are the guys like Donald, Goff, Gurley.  They were drafted a point in the draft that Rams won't see again for years if you are lucky.  

Eventually when you have lived through it for a while, you will understand- You will have a very good team for a long time, but the loaded team you have now is something that comes rarely, and the Packers haven't seen since the 96- 97 seasons.  The opportunity to win will be there as long as Goff plays well, but the overwhelming dominance is unique and limited.

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