vikingsrule Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, Klomp said: So you're kicking one guy to the curb because he's a bad KR, but you aren't signing another guy because KR is irrelevant? No. I question if his ability as a PR is worth devoting a roster spot too. Or is MN better off finding a new PR who might have more upside as a KR, or RB, WR or CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: No. I question if his ability as a PR is worth devoting a roster spot too. Or is MN better off finding a new PR who might have more upside as a KR, or RB, WR or CB. I honestly believe they evaluate that every year. Right now the players they have dropped or put on the practice squad must not be the player they think has enough upside to do what he does AND be a player on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: I honestly believe they evaluate that every year. Right now the players they have dropped or put on the practice squad must not be the player they think has enough upside to do what he does AND be a player on the field. Sherels is a FA in 2018 so it will be interesting to see what they do now that he's 30. I could see him getting a one year deal to compete in camp but I think in an ideal world you'd draft a third RB who could fill in as a PR or backup CB. Easier said than done I suppose. Just wonder if it's a skill set Spielman will look for in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Sherels is a FA in 2018 so it will be interesting to see what they do now that he's 30. I could see him getting a one year deal to compete in camp but I think in an ideal world you'd draft a third RB who could fill in as a PR or backup CB. Easier said than done I suppose. Just wonder if it's a skill set Spielman will look for in 2018. I think they looked for that out of Adams this year, was hoping for more from him as a return man and just couldn't find it. 3rd RB situation will be entertaining option tho. Many good options in the draft this year that have returned kicks and punts, only thing to look at is if we resign McKinnon. Can be a KR option for us, but we did see some bone-headed returns out of him, not sure of his PR value tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, vikingsrule said: Sherels is a FA in 2018 so it will be interesting to see what they do now that he's 30. I could see him getting a one year deal to compete in camp but I think in an ideal world you'd draft a third RB who could fill in as a PR or backup CB. Easier said than done I suppose. Just wonder if it's a skill set Spielman will look for in 2018. Mike Hughes would be a good potential replacement for Sherels; hope we draft him if he falls to the end of the third round: "Hughes has five interceptions, 11 passes broken up, a forced fumble, and 44 tackles in 2017. He also has been a dangerous kick returner with two scores and punt returner, including a punt return touchdown."http://walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php#ixzz51focFOKm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klomp Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If there's a chance of drafting a CB this year to possibly replace Waynes in a year, it'd be the perfect spot to get someone who also adds return ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Klomp said: If there's a chance of drafting a CB this year to possibly replace Waynes in a year, it'd be the perfect spot to get someone who also adds return ability. Here are links to his return TD's. Shows nice acceleration on these returns. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/insidetheplay112417/inside-ucf-knights-95-yard-kickoff-return-clinched-wild-win http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21198680 http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21026215 If he fell to the third we should take him in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, perrynoid said: Here are links to his return TD's. Shows nice acceleration on these returns. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/insidetheplay112417/inside-ucf-knights-95-yard-kickoff-return-clinched-wild-win http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21198680 http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21026215 If he fell to the third we should take him in a heartbeat. Dare I say this kid looks a little like Patterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think he does, and has a good rep as a cover corner. Just wondering what round he will go in, is slated as a 2-3 round pick. End of the third would be a steal if we could get him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, perrynoid said: I think he does, and has a good rep as a cover corner. Just wondering what round he will go in, is slated as a 2-3 round pick. End of the third would be a steal if we could get him then. I don't like drafting specialists so high, especially with limited capital (7 picks: 5 are originally ours and the other 2 being 6th round comp picks). He needs to be a corner first returner second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Zimmer emphasized last month that Minnesota’s special teams units could improve. The unit’s performance over the past few games has been the step forward Zimmer was looking for. Zimmer: “All the areas are doing much better, I think, now. We could still probably be better on kickoff return, but we’ve been careful about the ones we take out. Other than that, I think they’ve done a lot better. I think Marcus has been a lot more aggressive. That’s added to field position. I think our coverage units have been better.” Zimmer also highlighted the Vikings punting game. Ryan Quigley punted five times against the Bengals and on three occasions pinned them inside their own 20. http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Presser-Points-Zimmer-Lists-3-Reasons-Why-He-Expects-Vikings-Full-Focus/1c26b561-d1f8-40e5-99a4-e9858d8a5f16?sf176705528=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrynoid Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 6 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: I don't like drafting specialists so high, especially with limited capital (7 picks: 5 are originally ours and the other 2 being 6th round comp picks). He needs to be a corner first returner second. His scouting reports claim he is an excellent CB, that is why is he slated to go in the 2nd or 3rd round. The kick and punt return abilities are a bonus, as is the fact that he can fill three "shoes" with one roster spot. He would have an impact immediately on special teams, while becoming acclimated to playing CB n Zimmer's system, which can take a while to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Mike Hughes hasn't even officially declared yet. I "assume" he will tough. Still struggles with any sort of press man, but that may be something he can work on. He really isn't your "typical" CB that can play that Man Coverage well. Usually don't start digging into guys that haven't declared but since this was in our forum I decided to watch a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Is the long snapper done? That could really mess with the special teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Is the long snapper done? That could really mess with the special teams They are hoping he will be back for the playoffs. What is Loeffler up to? Or do we just roll with Morgan? He did ok with no practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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