Rich7sena Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Brian Burns is going to be a better run defender than his is a pass rusher in the NFL. I try to see a top-level pass rusher he compares to in the NFL, but there isn't one. I keep going back to Dion Jordan and Leonard Floyd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Jarvis Jones had the explosiveness of a stop sign. The two couldn't be further apart in terms of how they play. Polite could be a bust, sure. But his play style is hilariously different than Jarvis Jones'. Pretty much the only similarity is that they are EDGE guys who had bad workouts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 12:58 AM, BleedTheClock said: Jarvis Jones had the explosiveness of a stop sign You do love you some hyperbole. I'll give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 10:42 AM, MOSteelers56 said: Pretty much the only similarity is that they are EDGE guys who had bad workouts. Odd body types for the position as well IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 12:58 AM, BleedTheClock said: Jarvis Jones had the explosiveness of a stop sign. Is that a bad thing? idk.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Is that a bad thing? idk.. More hits than Jarvis Jones ever had. Maybe I should have said he has the agility and explosiveness of a dead moose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: More hits than Jarvis Jones ever had. Maybe I should have said he has the agility and explosiveness of a dead moose. Couldn’t find any gifs showing an agile dead moose, so this may in fact be true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Did that one guy who used to frequent this forum ever put out his "Explosive" index rankings for EDGE rushers this year... or w/e it was called? Edited May 13, 2019 by HTTRG3Dynasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Did that one guy who used to frequent this forum ever put out his "Explosive" index rankings for EDGE rushers this year... or w/e it was called? Are you talking about the Waldo formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Forge said: Are you talking about the Waldo formula? Yeah lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Yeah lol He doesn't post here any more. Justis Mosqueda does a variant from the Waldo formula that he calls "force players", which are usually up on his twitter. Not sure if he houses them anywhere else. If what I read before was right, he only had like 4 in this entire draft class this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Forge said: He doesn't post here any more. Justis Mosqueda does a variant from the Waldo formula that he calls "force players", which are usually up on his twitter. Not sure if he houses them anywhere else. If what I read before was right, he only had like 4 in this entire draft class this year. Hmmm. Looked through his Twitter. See he's done it in prior years, but couldn't find anything on the 2019 guys. Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Actually, it's here. Just annoyingly cryptic. "FP" = "Force player" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 hours ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Actually, it's here. Just annoyingly cryptic. "FP" = "Force player" Is the Waldo formula actually useful? I’ve seen a lot of people call it genius and a lot of people call it useless, so I don’t know what to think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 7:45 PM, AlNFL19 said: Is the Waldo formula actually useful? I’ve seen a lot of people call it genius and a lot of people call it useless, so I don’t know what to think The original formula had some pretty solid success in the early years from what I remember, but it was pretty stringent in what it was evaluating. Didn't account for scheme and positional variances and things like that. It was genius, though that didn't make it useful lol Justis' FP is a variant of Waldo which added to the original formula. I have no idea what his success rate has been overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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