N4L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Is Hyde THAT bad? I mean a 5th now given our current RB situation isnt that bad and there is literally no one available as a FA No, he's not a bad player. He's got all of the physical abilities you'd want. Strong, fast, agile.. He's solid but not spectacular. He's the definition of average at everything but not great at anything. He fools you into thinking he could be better than he actually is because he's a plus athlete. Not a great receiver but he can catch passes. He's not a dynamic playmaker Really solid person, very professional, goes about his business, good guy in the locker room. You know what you are getting from the guy on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Isn't Duke kind of the passing game specialist anyway? I dunno, just seems kinda straight forward to me that they should've gone Chubb as the main runner and Duke as the passing down specialist type. @AFlaccoSeagulls Hes Miami's all time leading rusher. Duke averaged 6.7 YPC, McGahee 6.2, Edgerrin 6.0, Portis 5.7, Gore 5.7 at Miami. Duke can run the damn ball and I always feel like in his pro career since hes quick and is a really good pass catcher, coaches have relegated him to a receiving down only RB. It makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 From Rotoworld: Carlos Hyde isn't expected to play in Week 7 against the Browns.Hyde has only two days to learn Jacksonville's playbook. His presence shouldn't impact T.J. Yeldon's role much this week even if he's active. With Leonard Fournette (hamstring) expected back after the Week 9 bye, the Jaguars are taking on a lot of salary with Hyde for what could be a one-game cameo as the team's featured back. Hyde is going to struggle for snaps when Fournette returns. From Spotrac: The JAGS have more cash sunk into the RB position than QB. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/positional/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Broncofan said: As a Chubb owner in 2 redrafts OMG yes. Fournette owners - DO NOT DESPAIR. Why? Let me explain. JAX is in win now mode. They have a week 9 bye but they have a @PHI game week 8 they can’t win without a run game. And Yeldon is getting beat up. He can’t run 15x a game each week. This is a pure stop gap move because they are all in for 2018. JAX also only has 13M in 2018-19 combined cap room. So they aren’t going to spend to upgrade so they need a cheap stopgap. Hyde’s contract also factors in - as JAX is tight against the cap and faces real problems next year. They are only on the hook for just under 850k of his 1.5M salary. CLE assumes ALL the prior bonus $. And in 2019 - there is no dead money. None. A 1.4M roster bonus is due on the 3rd day of the new financial year (March 2019). Hyde will get cut before then. https://overthecap.com/player/carlos-hyde/2996 Hyde is insurance. When Fournette is healthy Hyde goes to the bench. If Fournette gets hurt again they can go Hyde-Yeldon as the combo that can last. With Corey Grant on IR it had to be more than just Yeldon until Fournette returned. They can’t afford to lose more games if they want the division and a top 2 bye. This just was their all in move. But it’s not even close to a signal they are ready to give up on Fournette this year. And next year they let Hyde walk and hope to collect a comp pick back. There is no long term move away from Fournette. Anyone who says that isn’t paying attention to Hyde’s contract and the JAX cap situation. The player who is screwed fantasy wise is Hyde. Yeldon will get all the JAX pass work like Duke did in CLE . Fournette will send Hyde to the bench once he’s healthy. This just allows JAX to not abuse Yeldon and let Fournette get healthy for when it really matters - but still win while he’s out. And long term Hyde’s going to have to find a new home 1 year older. The owners who should be thrilled are Chubb owners. Fournette owners, don’t despair. Pour one out for the Hyde owners. Hyde actually makes sense for this team. Yeldon and Grant will be FA next season, and I doubt they bring back either. Hyde at a value 1M is good given Fournette can't stay healthy. That backfield will be Fournette,Hyde, and a later round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Leader said: From Rotoworld: Carlos Hyde isn't expected to play in Week 7 against the Browns.Hyde has only two days to learn Jacksonville's playbook. His presence shouldn't impact T.J. Yeldon's role much this week even if he's active. With Leonard Fournette (hamstring) expected back after the Week 9 bye, the Jaguars are taking on a lot of salary with Hyde for what could be a one-game cameo as the team's featured back. Hyde is going to struggle for snaps when Fournette returns. From Spotrac: The JAGS have more cash sunk into the RB position than QB. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/positional/ Well yeah, Jags aren't playing the Browns so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 7 hours ago, N4L said: No, he's not a bad player. He's got all of the physical abilities you'd want. Strong, fast, agile.. He's solid but not spectacular. He's the definition of average at everything but not great at anything. He fools you into thinking he could be better than he actually is because he's a plus athlete. Not a great receiver but he can catch passes. He's not a dynamic playmaker Really solid person, very professional, goes about his business, good guy in the locker room. You know what you are getting from the guy on a daily basis. Yea I just feel like this wasn't a bad move for either side. We desperately need a RB and getting an extra draft pick for the Browns seems like a good thing lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Leader said: Just checked the JAX stats and Yeldon is averaging over 5 yds per carry - so he's carrying his load - but he might be nicked up as he's questionable for this week: Yeldon (foot/ankle) returned to a limited practice Thursday. (about 1 day ago) I loved Jamaal Charles back in the day - he was a wonder to behold on my FF team - but I think his better days are behind him. So if Fornette's out/limited and Yeldon goes down - JAX would have been pretty much out of luck from the RB position. Hence - dropping a 5 to get Hyde. hes been knicked up since fournette went down the 1st time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Speedyg said: Hyde actually makes sense for this team. Yeldon and Grant will be FA next season, and I doubt they bring back either. Hyde at a value 1M is good given Fournette can't stay healthy. That backfield will be Fournette,Hyde, and a later round draft pick. Except next year it costs them 6M to retain Hyde in 2019. That’s never happening. He’s a rental and then he’s gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyg Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Broncofan said: Except next year it costs them 6M to retain Hyde in 2019. That’s never happening. He’s a rental and then he’s gone. Damn you're right. Didn't eralize his base salary is 3M plus. Yeah, this is a half a season's rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlin calling Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 welcome to the Ravens squad of 2019, Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, berlin calling said: welcome to the Ravens squad of 2019, Carlos Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlin calling Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 if Hyde is a one year rental the Ravens should look into acquiring him next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 11:48 PM, AkronsWitness said: @AFlaccoSeagulls Hes Miami's all time leading rusher. Duke averaged 6.7 YPC, McGahee 6.2, Edgerrin 6.0, Portis 5.7, Gore 5.7 at Miami. Duke can run the damn ball and I always feel like in his pro career since hes quick and is a really good pass catcher, coaches have relegated him to a receiving down only RB. It makes no sense to me. You're forgetting that he gets hurt every 3rd time he touches the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 hours ago, pnies20 said: You're forgetting that he gets hurt every 3rd time he touches the ball Run out of bounds every 3rd time. Next question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Run out of bounds every 3rd time. Next question He’ll run into a player on the sideline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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