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9 hours ago, BayRaider said:

We’ve seen what they can do in the regular season though. Point I’m making is it was worth a 3rd Round Gamble when you have a team that made the AFC Championship with a questionable QB and nobody behind him. 

Still missing the point.

There were a healthy contingent of Jaguars fans who were pretty convinced that Teddy would've been a worthwhile gamble in the first place, before the preseason.  Just in gambling on the contract itself to have him come in and as long as he was reasonably healthy...be the best QB on the roster.  But they didn't do it then, when they could've gambled for free.  They weren't going to give up a 3rd round pick just for the privilege of making themselves look stupid and undermining "their guy" a couple months later in time for Week 1 of the season.

You have to recognize that it's not "Be a GM" mode in Madden or whatever.  For better or (mostly) worse, there's a lot more that's gone on beneath the surface.  Jaguars front office have a GM who is deeply married to Blake Bortles success, and they only have eyes for him.  Not to mention a locker room that had started to really rally behind the guy coming off an AFC Championship game run, and basically one quarter away from a Superbowl berth.  It was a situation that had all the makings of a no-win scenario.

If you're going to bring in another QB option, you just ditch Bortles altogether.  And you make both moves before you even hit training camp.  Anything else would've been a pretty much guaranteed QB controversy distraction from Week 1.  That's not good management either.

The Jaguars clearly don't have enough depth as it is...so someone like Alex Smith was going to be off the table (not to mention the AFC in division thing).  Cousins wasn't a guarantee to come here, but if he did...it'd be guaranteed to cost us at least one or two of the really key young defensive players they've accumulated when their contracts come due soon.  They didn't have the picks to get up and grab one of the guys in the draft.  There weren't a lot of amazing options.

 

It was immensely frustrating to watch them wager what should have been a championship aspiration season on the arm of Blake Bortles.  But there wasn't just a free Peyton Manning to plunk in there with our elite defense.  It was stupid, but you can at least see where they were coming from with it.  Bortles can occasionally actually win you a game.  He'll lose you a lot more, but they seemingly tried to build a team that was "idiot proof" for Bortles specifically to work around that as best they could.

 

Which is where the real disaster is found.  In the absolutely terrible job they did of actually building "that team" that was effectively Bortle-proof.  All the stuff @pwny listed off - in basically just failing to build proper depth at any of the key positions to that concept. 

-RB where they built 1 guy into the focal point of the offense, only to have him spend the whole season injured. 

=WR where they banked some anomalous breakout seasons from depth guys as though it was rock solid, and brought in an expensive specialist depth receiver instead of bringing back their actually rock-solid volume target receiver in Allen Robinson. 

-OLine where they essentially banked on both LT and RT staying completely healthy and playing better than they did last year. 

And they went ahead and spent that 1st round pick on a guy who addressed exactly none of those issues with the offense in any way whatsoever, and also kept a big chunk of cap space in reserve for...some later date.  So when a few things have fallen apart with injuries at obvious stress points...the offense has completely crumbled because as they pretty much identified, Bortles can't carry the unit.  They just failed so badly at identifying how to better insulate him with overwhelming depth at the positions that mattered most in that regard.

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11 hours ago, Forge said:

If Kessler was a true, viable option, I'd say pull him. But Kessler has never shown to be anything more than maybe an average back up quarterback in my opinion. I don't think it solves anything. They have 10 million in space left this year I think...I think you go outside the organization to find something better. Supposedly they aren't looking, but let's be real, Kessler isn't the answer, and if Bortles isn't either, they need to do something else. 

I'd still like to see Kessler with some more opportunities though. I feel like this guy has gotten a raw deal because of the perception of his arm talent. Couldn't be much worse than Bortles out there.

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12 hours ago, PapaShogun said:

I'd still like to see Kessler with some more opportunities though. I feel like this guy has gotten a raw deal because of the perception of his arm talent. Couldn't be much worse than Bortles out there.

The problem is, all he's ever shown is that the "perception" of his arm talent is based on his demonstrable lack thereof.  Unfortunately for Kessler...a big part of being an NFL quarterback is in having the arm talent to actually get the ball to where it needs to go, at a variety of areas on the football field, and in a timely fashion.  He just hasn't shown the ability to really do that effectively.

I have few doubts he'd generally make better (or at least safer) decisions than Bortles, and maybe that helps you lose a bit less badly than when Bortles goes off the rails...but you're not going to win with Kessler starting games.  Especially not with the Jaguars lack of quality receiving threats that can reliably catch the football.  Even dink and dunk completely falls apart when your receivers drop or tip every 3rd or 4th attempt into an interception or drive killer.

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Who is in on the Blake Bortles sweepstakes? This kind of disrespect is going to send him elsewhere where he will undoubtedly perform at a hall of fame level. Bortles has everything you dream of in a QB, a golden arm that can carve up a Belichek defense for 377 yards and four touchdowns plus his name is alliterative and cool. Would love him behind Rivers for a season or two and then possibly take over the helm in 2021. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, El ramster said:

Blake

Bortles nation stand up! Jags are

in cap hell as well the next year...

 

Damm that 2017 was a fun one for the boys. Short lived but hella fun. 

A wise man will say the same in 2020 about the 3 year run of the Rams from 17-19.

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4 hours ago, SBLIII said:

A wise man will say the same in 2020 about the 3 year run of the Rams from 17-19.

negative tango.. Jags are negative over 20-30 mil next year.. I know with some cuts they'll be better off..

But now they have to go QB hunting again.

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The BOAT is going to shred the Eagles. A) in London, the one time they get a true HFA and he thrives. B) Mariota had his best game in years against us earlier in the season. C) He's not an awful QB, just looking to not be a QBOTF. You need consistency first and foremost from your franchise QB, and Bortles just hasn't been providing that... However, when he's "on", he's good. This can be said for almost every starter... but by the way people have been trashing Bortles lately, you'd think he wasn't one of those starters and doesn't belong in the league.

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