sdrawkcab321 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 7:54 PM, Thomas5737 said: I've been embarassed of WV's Governor and his "dadgummed if you do dadgummed if you don't" speeches until today: http://imgur.com/gallery/CeEJrfJ You'll have to unmute it. I’m writing this guy in for president. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I’m writing this guy in for president. He is really embarrassing to be represented by 99% of the time but this was certainly redeeming. He goes by Big Jim now because that's what Trump calls him. Edited May 6, 2020 by Thomas5737 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 So... Earl Thomas. Interesting night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, candyman93 said: So... Earl Thomas. Interesting night. It's the stories like these that make me sad I never had a brother. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) We are contingent on a house right now but just had the home inspection. Not sure if we have any contracting experts around here. There were a number of things but most notably, I want to make sure the foundation is OK or things can be fixed up by someone qualified. If this is simply a poor structure I would just want to walk away from it. Here are some concerns I’m looking at. Here is the actual structure from the front: High moisture levels in crawl space: Basement wall/crawl space: Vapor barrier noted to be missing: Negative grading that slopes towards the house is noted: Appreciate any advice. Browns fans are experts typically on all things, so leaving this here. It’s a nice two-story place on a couple acres. If there are foundation issues that are an easy fix by a specialist that’s fine. If it was a poor construction from the start, that’s another. Edited May 7, 2020 by NateDawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, NateDawg said: We are contingent on a house right now but just had the home inspection. Not sure if we have any contracting experts around here. There were a number of things but most notably, I want to make sure the foundation is OK or things can be fixed up by someone qualified. If this is simply a poor structure I would just want to walk away from it. Here are some concerns I’m looking at. Here is the actual structure from the front: High moisture levels in crawl space: Basement wall/crawl space: Vapor barrier noted to be missing: Negative grading that slopes towards the house is noted: Appreciate any advice. Browns fans are experts typically on all things, so leaving this here. It’s a nice two-story place on a couple acres. If there are foundation issues that are an easy fix by a specialist that’s fine. If it was a poor construction from the start, that’s another. Heck I would talk to the realtor about getting someone out to actually look at the house. Saying you are contingent on it until you get an evaluation about those aspects. I would post this on reddit in their homeowner page and get opinions on it. Some might have a lot more experience than us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) The level of water visible (damage) above the insulation would have me personally walking away. The amount of moisture has to have affected the floor joists and subfloor at least a little. you also would want to fully insulate the inside wall and based on the pictures, waterproofing the block wall below grade (on the exterior) would be needed to. I have never looked at details for a house with crawlspace, but I would have to assume that the sub floor should be receiving the insulation, not the ground....as you can see water (and the cold) are getting into the space above, so your floors will be cold, or you will be excessively running the furnace. I do think you should have someone who does carpentry & masonry check it out in depth. Makes more sense to do that when it isn't your problem, rather than once it is... Edited May 7, 2020 by malibuspeedrace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, buno67 said: Heck I would talk to the realtor about getting someone out to actually look at the house. Saying you are contingent on it until you get an evaluation about those aspects. I would post this on reddit in their homeowner page and get opinions on it. Some might have a lot more experience than us Yeah, I think we are probably going to send a contractor out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Hey nate I just want to let you know that I dont know jack about this stuff. I will say it looks nice a part from the ones that dont look nice. True story though, I put an offer in on a house, and then a builder came aroudn and said it was a heap of ****, I was sweating bullets till that contract got terminated. Edited May 7, 2020 by Kiwibrown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, malibuspeedrace said: The level of water visible (damage) above the insulation would have me personally walking away. The amount of moisture has to have affected the floor joists and subfloor at least a little. you also would want to fully insulate the inside wall and based on the pictures, waterproofing the block wall below grade (on the exterior) would be needed to. I have never looked at details for a house with crawlspace, but I would have to assume that the sub floor should be receiving the insulation, not the ground....as you can see water (and the cold) are getting into the space above, so your floors will be cold, or you will be excessively running the furnace. I do think you should have someone who does carpentry & masonry check it out in depth. Makes more sense to do that when it isn't your problem, rather than once it is... Yeah if there’s any chance whatsoever this happens it will have to be on their dime and while they own it. Who knows at this point .. 36 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Hey nate I just want to let you know that I dont know jack about this stuff. I will say it looks nice a part from the ones that dont look nice. True story though, I put an offer in on a house, and then a builder came aroudn and said it was a heap of ****, I was sweating bullets till that contract got terminated. Those would be such comforting words from the builder... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 13 hours ago, NateDawg said: Appreciate any advice. Speaking my language here. I have a split level with a crawlspace that looks frighteningly similar. Had grading issues as well. Fixed those last fall, and just completed running the gutter downspouts to the street last month. 80% of the roof drained onto the lawn right next to the house on the crawlspace side. The other 20% ties into the sump pump line to the curb on the other side of the house. I believe with a few hundred dollars of dirt and gravel, some PVC supplies and renting a curb core drill, that I have fixed the underlying problem as far as the water goes. I used to get pooling going up to my basement walkout, but now the closest water pools is about 30' away from the door and much smaller. I really haven't been back in the crawlspace since I completed it, but I expect some improvement in the moisture on that wall. I will be pulling all that old nasty vapor barrier out and encapsulating it. All in all, I will have about $4000 and untold hours of backbreaking labor in it. My wife added up the quotes we got on all the work we did, and it came up just under $13000. You'll have to get quotes in the remediation process. Use those quotes to drive the price down. 4 years in and I have about $50-60K in equity on it because I wasn't afraid of fixing stuff like that. Get a professional opinion of course, because it does look a little more saturated than my wall was. Stuff like that is fixable, though. It will be either heavy labor intensive or expensive, but if you can price it in, it looks like a real nice house otherwise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ditchdigger said: Speaking my language here. I have a split level with a crawlspace that looks frighteningly similar. Had grading issues as well. Fixed those last fall, and just completed running the gutter downspouts to the street last month. 80% of the roof drained onto the lawn right next to the house on the crawlspace side. The other 20% ties into the sump pump line to the curb on the other side of the house. I believe with a few hundred dollars of dirt and gravel, some PVC supplies and renting a curb core drill, that I have fixed the underlying problem as far as the water goes. I used to get pooling going up to my basement walkout, but now the closest water pools is about 30' away from the door and much smaller. I really haven't been back in the crawlspace since I completed it, but I expect some improvement in the moisture on that wall. I will be pulling all that old nasty vapor barrier out and encapsulating it. All in all, I will have about $4000 and untold hours of backbreaking labor in it. My wife added up the quotes we got on all the work we did, and it came up just under $13000. You'll have to get quotes in the remediation process. Use those quotes to drive the price down. 4 years in and I have about $50-60K in equity on it because I wasn't afraid of fixing stuff like that. Get a professional opinion of course, because it does look a little more saturated than my wall was. Stuff like that is fixable, though. It will be either heavy labor intensive or expensive, but if you can price it in, it looks like a real nice house otherwise. You’re a good man Ditch. We’re trying to line up a contractor right now to assess what needs done to correct the problem. As long as it’s reversible and we feel good about it, we will ask for the seller to foot that bill. Roof has also run its course so we’re going to try to drive down the price there also. If they end up being difficult, it just won’t work out. I like manual labor but unfortunately I’m not competent enough to do the type of work you did on yours. So, it will be paying the experts if this happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, NateDawg said: You’re a good man Ditch. We’re trying to line up a contractor right now to assess what needs done to correct the problem. As long as it’s reversible and we feel good about it, we will ask for the seller to foot that bill. Roof has also run its course so we’re going to try to drive down the price there also. If they end up being difficult, it just won’t work out. I like manual labor but unfortunately I’m not competent enough to do the type of work you did on yours. So, it will be paying the experts if this happens. Don't doubt yourself or the power of youtube. I had zero experience with any of that stuff, but I was able to pull it off somehow. Honestly though, I would have loved to pay someone if my wife let me. So if that's an option, make it your first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Fully agree with Ditch Youtube and do the work yourself. I completely fixed our AC unit thanks to youtube. I replaced our dual Vessal sinks in our bathroom thanks to youtube (though i am officially retired from any plumbing work. I wired my whole garage with outlets (The previous owner had 2 outlets and extension cords... Youtube is a godsend for things like that. This summer The wife wants me to build a bathroom on our main level...Youtube will be used heavily for everything past the studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, malibuspeedrace said: Fully agree with Ditch Youtube and do the work yourself. I completely fixed our AC unit thanks to youtube. I replaced our dual Vessal sinks in our bathroom thanks to youtube (though i am officially retired from any plumbing work. I wired my whole garage with outlets (The previous owner had 2 outlets and extension cords... Youtube is a godsend for things like that. This summer The wife wants me to build a bathroom on our main level...Youtube will be used heavily for everything past the studs. Build one from scratch or gut an existing one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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