Thomas5737 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: Kinda curious now how you meant "supposed to". Agreed. I was just making a broad statement based on what I have witnessed of the belief systems of most folks here. I may be incorrect in my assertion. Just to point the obvious out here, but you are taking a "pro" stance. While I happen to agree, you are framing a "pro" stance as centrist/acceptable to most, at least how it reads to me. Not saying I necessarily am strongly in favor of the other side, but one side has clearly stated that they mean to proceed in the direction of disarming of the citizens. Venezuela disarmed it's citizens very recently, so it's not impossible. I hope you are right, as my personal stance leans strongly into personal rights of citizens, but there is a slippery slope of citizens always needing the help of government in order to defend themselves/mete out punishment. What if it turns out government not friend? I am on the side of responsible ownership and extensive background checks, including mental acuity testing, but we also have one political party (again, this is not necessarily an endorsement for the other major part) that is redefining what firearms are even doing, including ignoring statistics (like pistols being the #1 killer) in order to attempt to make mad restrictions (like how much ammo a person can purchase and how they can purchase it legally) and saying they will take them by force if need be. There are folks on camera who have said those exact words, so the conversation has at least been started; it's not some faraway deal anymore. tl;dr never say never; we all would've said our country/small businesses but not big businesses would never be locked down, and yet here we are Thing is we've had many Presidents in my lifetime that were supposed to outlaw guns, God and abortion and other Presidents that were supposed to make each mandatory yet none of that ever happens. It's a fear based system where they try to scare their own supporters to strengthen their support. Happens on both sides. All it does is make many American hate other Americans, at least in the political setting. I mean, we should be better and smarter as citizens than to let others control us through these measures but we aren't. Unfortunately. So we spread hate for things that aren't going to change dramatically anyway to the benefit of those seeking donations to their cause (pockets). Makes me sad and disappointed. We will rise up though. I just hope when it happens, probably a long time from now, that people accept change that will benefit the people and not be the brainwashed extremists that they are trying to build the population of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: Thing is we've had many Presidents in my lifetime that were supposed to outlaw guns, God and abortion and other Presidents that were supposed to make each mandatory yet none of that ever happens. It's a fear based system where they try to scare their own supporters to strengthen their support. Happens on both sides. All it does is make many American hate other Americans, at least in the political setting. I mean, we should be better and smarter as citizens than to let others control us through these measures but we aren't. Unfortunately. So we spread hate for things that aren't going to change dramatically anyway to the benefit of those seeking donations to their cause (pockets). Makes me sad and disappointed. We will rise up though. I just hope when it happens, probably a long time from now, that people accept change that will benefit the people and not be the brainwashed extremists that they are trying to build the population of. Quality post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Nothing I have witnessed or experienced with people has surprised me. However, on the flip side it makes me believe that society isn’t becoming worse. It’s just doing what it has always done. We used to burn women alive for dancing in the woods if crops failed. We used to keep people as slaves. However, because we’re “comfortable” with Netflix, Hulu, and football we don’t realize how horrific people still are. You take away laws and we’re doing the same awful crap we did in the stone ages. Edited October 31, 2020 by candyman93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Nice to know we’re 24 hours away from insanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, candyman93 said: Nice to know we’re 24 hours away from insanity. Yeah this is gonna be a wild ride either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah this is gonna be a wild ride either way. 92.3 million votes have already been cast. Which means we might not know results until Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, candyman93 said: 92.3 million votes have already been cast. Which means we might not know results until Friday. There were 137 million in 2016 and we still have today and then the actual Election Day remaining. No matter the results, it’s good to see people actually engaged and doing their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 3 hours ago, candyman93 said: Nice to know we’re 24 hours away from insanity. Tbh if things go one way I’ll be picking rioters off the streets for weeks or months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, NateDawg said: Tbh if things go one way I’ll be picking rioters off the streets for weeks or months. Is the most chaotic year you’ve dealt with in your profession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 For me, this year hasn’t been fun. However, 2017 was the worst year for me professionally. Helping out when Hurricane Harvey hit Houston was a nightmare. I had never seen such destruction in my life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Is the most chaotic year you’ve dealt with in your profession? No question. And if these idiots infringe on my football watching I’m bringing some fists out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 IMO it’s hard to say when we will know and all boils down to about 5-7 swing states. Pennsylvania not counting votes until all the mail ins are accounted for is a major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Pennsylvania not counting votes until all the mail ins are accounted for is a major factor. Holy crap That’s going to be a overwhelming nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Holy crap That’s going to be a overwhelming nightmare. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin can’t begin processing until tomorrow...and that also means anything postmarked tomorrow counts as well...which will take days to even count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 hours ago, candyman93 said: Nice to know we’re 24 hours away from insanity. You lot have been insane for ages and ages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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