SmittyBacall Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, sammymvpknight said: So clearly they couldn’t trade for Peterson...either because he’s not available or couldn’t get the compensation. The asking price is probably outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Guapo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 They can't outbid someone for Peterson. The team would take 2019 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Wasn't Apple playing well this year? I'd say this is a good consolation prize for dropping out of the Peterson sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Just now, SmittyBacall said: 2 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: So clearly they couldn’t trade for Peterson...either because he’s not available or couldn’t get the compensation. The asking price is probably outrageous. that or they just couldn't swing it with the lack of draft picks..not having a 1st or 3rd next year limited what they could do. Especially vs some of the other teams rumored to be in on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 IMO, Eli Apple sucks. Bad trade for the Saints, great trade for the Giants. On a different note.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Guapo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Giants need Sam Beal to be good, they lost their third for him. Jenkins has struggled this year, I don't see them paying him again right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, EL Guapo said: Apple hasn't been too bad this year. They played the Giants so they've watched him He looked like he turned a corner to start the year. Had a really good, borderline great weeks 1 and 2. Then he got hurt and was out for a few weeks, and since he has come back he has just been ok. He has been much more active and willing on special teams recently, but his lack of pass breakups since he has been back is pretty concerning. Good deal for both teams, Saints and Giants. Apple is very athletic and has some plays where he is able to recover and make a great play on the ball that makes you say "wow", but those are way too far and in between. Maybe a change of scenery helps him out. He also gets injured pretty often. The compensation isn't bad. This proves that the Giants are sellers right now, not buyers. Thinking the Giants are going to make a move for Derek Carr is dumb IMO. Honestly wish the Giants could have included the other Eli in the deal too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Raves said: Basically what I thought hte compensation would be. He's got all the talent in the world, part of why he was drafted 10th overall, but for whatever reason he just didn't do well with the Giants. I honestly haven't followed them so who knows, but a change of scenery might be just what he needed, plus he has a lot of former teammates on the team which should help him feel more comfortable and focused. He's got a lot of physical talent for sure. He is built and moves exactly like you want your corner too. He plays very dumb and with 0 confidence though. Those 2 things and his leftover college tendencies to play the player instead of the ball result in penalties and missed opportunities. Thing is, he is still young so he could still be coached out of some of those. He's still got potential to be good. Right now though, he definitely isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: So clearly they couldn’t trade for Peterson...either because he’s not available or couldn’t get the compensation. Of the teams rumored they were in the worst position to be able to get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomer Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, minutemancl said: He's got a lot of physical talent for sure. He is built and moves exactly like you want your corner too. He plays very dumb and with 0 confidence though. Those 2 things and his leftover college tendencies to play the player instead of the ball result in penalties and missed opportunities. Thing is, he is still young so he could still be coached out of some of those. He's still got potential to be good. Right now though, he definitely isn't. Sounds like he'll fit right in with our secondary then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamRod Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Needs to work on his cooking. Not a big fan of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, minutemancl said: He's got a lot of physical talent for sure. He is built and moves exactly like you want your corner too. He plays very dumb and with 0 confidence though. Those 2 things and his leftover college tendencies to play the player instead of the ball result in penalties and missed opportunities. Thing is, he is still young so he could still be coached out of some of those. He's still got potential to be good. Right now though, he definitely isn't. I mean he was amazing in college with few flaws, but whatever happened with the Giants just didn't work. I think having 4 of his former teammates with him, Lattimore and Bell in the backfield, Thomas at WR and JT on the PS, will do a lot to help get him comfortable with the team and make sure he is focused and keeping outside distractions away. I think I remember posting in the Saints forum at one point about trying to acquire Apple for a late round pick after his 2017 season because the talent is there, he might have just needed a change of scenery which seems to happen for players from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Great low risk high reward trade by NO. Not sure I love it for NYG because this was only year 2 right? CB's sometimes take 2-3 years to hit their stride. Either they gave up too soon or Apple was a getting back to his locker room antics and they took what they could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 INT in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Raves said: I mean he was amazing in college with few flaws, but whatever happened with the Giants just didn't work. I think having 4 of his former teammates with him, Lattimore and Bell in the backfield, Thomas at WR and JT on the PS, will do a lot to help get him comfortable with the team and make sure he is focused and keeping outside distractions away. I think I remember posting in the Saints forum at one point about trying to acquire Apple for a late round pick after his 2017 season because the talent is there, he might have just needed a change of scenery which seems to happen for players from time to time. Was he? I don't think he was ever even the best CB on his own team. He was a top 10 pick, but he was the reach of the first round in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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