Kiwibrown Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah the idea of cutting talent to save cap space for no reason has to die. Tretter is a competent player who’s signed for one more year. Roll with him as a backup and he’ll come off the cap well before that space is needed. exactly. Collins is a little different, he saves us 9 million, and we owe 2.5 then 1.25 million. If he isn't cut this year he is cut next year, no one will trade for him, they would have to pay him 9 million and then more the year after. If you think you can do soemthing better with 9 million this off season, then make your move. You can't do better for depth with the oline than what tretter offers at a low cap number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braylon Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 12:04 PM, bosko1616 said: I can’t decide who Chubbs reminds me of most. Three guys come to mind for me but hes kinda of a mash up of the three and doesn’t really directly compare to one. Shaun Alexander,Jamal Lewis, and Frank Gore. All come to mind when watching him play Yep, I have stated that he reminds me a bit of Jamal Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jking948 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, braylon said: Yep, I have stated that he reminds me a bit of Jamal Lewis. The big thing about Chubb is that he is the perfect mix of strength, agility, and vision. He is not a guy that just barrels straight and prays for a hole. Chubb reacts incredibly quickly if the hole moves, which means he can pickup more yards per play compared to a guy like Fournette - who is obviously really good, but mainly because he just barrels forward and is strong as an ox. By stats that control for the strength of the offensive line - yards after first contact, broken tackles, elusive rating, and 10+ yard play percentage - Chubb has been the best runningback in the NFL. I do not think he is... but, he absolutely has the potential to become the best RB in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 48 minutes ago, jking948 said: The big thing about Chubb is that he is the perfect mix of strength, agility, and vision. He is not a guy that just barrels straight and prays for a hole. Chubb reacts incredibly quickly if the hole moves, which means he can pickup more yards per play compared to a guy like Fournette - who is obviously really good, but mainly because he just barrels forward and is strong as an ox. By stats that control for the strength of the offensive line - yards after first contact, broken tackles, elusive rating, and 10+ yard play percentage - Chubb has been the best runningback in the NFL. I do not think he is... but, he absolutely has the potential to become the best RB in the NFL. Vision is actually his biggest weakness as a runner to me. He is not terrible but he is not good either. Once he gets to the second level he has very good vision, knows how to set up his blockers, and has a natural ability to reduce angles. At the initial set up of the blocking scheme though he has left numerous yards on the field especially in the Kansas City game. He is young and it has been a long known fact that young backs struggle with patience and understanding of where things will open up. It is a very exciting thing for us IMO that Chubb is producing like he is right now despite leaving yards on the field at this stage in his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 10:44 AM, braylon said: Yep, I have stated that he reminds me a bit of Jamal Lewis. TBH, I have to confess, I don't agree with the Jamal Lewis reference that has been thrown around, Lewis had a really distinctive short choppy running style, Chubb is a long strider. I'll come up with my comp in a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: TBH, I have to confess, I don't agree with the Jamal Lewis reference that has been thrown around, Lewis had a really distinctive short choppy running style, Chubb is a long strider. I'll come up with my comp in a second I am moving on from Lewis as well, Lewis was a fast nugget. I dont think he had the balance that chubb has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, MSURacerDT55 said: TBH, I have to confess, I don't agree with the Jamal Lewis reference that has been thrown around, Lewis had a really distinctive short choppy running style, Chubb is a long strider. I'll come up with my comp in a second So far you’ve been given 3600 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 5- 6 Players to Add in the Off-Season to Transform Our Team to a Playoff Contender: 1 of 3 Rookie WRs: Emanuel Hall // AJ Brown // Chase Claypool 1 of 2 Veteran Reliable WRs: Quincy Enunwa // Chris Conley 1 Rookie TE: Albert Okwuegbunam 1 of 4 Rookie LT/RTs: Yodney Cajuste // David Edwards // Jonah Williams // Dalton Risner 1 of 4 Rookie DT/NTs: Jerry Tillery // Jeffery Simmons // Derrick Brown // Christian Wilkins --- Optional: 1Rookie DE: Brian Burns ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRAFT **Trade 1 -- 10th overall pick for a 2019 2nd 2020 1st **Trade 2 -- Trade down again in the 1st for 2019 draft capital and 2020 stuff. 1. LT Yodney Cajuste 2. One of the DTs Fall -- NT/DT Jerry Tillery // DT Jeffery Simmons (DV/off-field **** could have him fall to top of 2nd) // DT/NT Derrick Brown // DT/NT Christian Wilkins 2. (From Trade 1) WR Emanuel Hall ***TRADE Back into the 2nd with some of the 2019 draft capital acquired via trade downs**** 2. TE Albert Okwuegbunam 3. OT/OG Dalton Risner 4. WR Chase Claypool 5. Best CB Available 5. Best LB Available 5. Best CB Available 6. Best Edge Rusher // Best LB 7. BPA 2019 Roster Preview (Unbalanced & With No Cuts) Offense (?): Quarterbacks (2): QB: Baker Mayfield // Drew Stanton ------------ Running Backs (3): RB: Nick Chubb // Duke Johnson // Devante Mays ------------ Fullback (1): FB: Orson Charles ------------ Wide Receivers (8): WR1: Emanuel Hall // Antonio Callaway // Chase Claypool WR2: Chris Conley // Rashard Higgins // Damion Ratley // Breshad Perriman Slot-WR: Jarvis Landry // (Duke Johnson) Practice Squad: Da'Mari Scott ; Derrick Willies ------------ Tight Ends (5): TE1: David Njoku // Seth DeValve TE1: Albert Okwuegbunam // Darren Fells Practice Squad: Pharoah Brown ------------ Offensive Linemen (11): LT: Desmond Harrison // (Yodney Cajuste) // (Greg Robinson) LG: Joel Bitonio // Dalton Risner // (Austin Corbett) C: JC Tretter // Austin Corbett RG: Kevin Zeitler // (Chris Hubbard ) // Rookie OG // Earl Watford RT: Yodney Cajuste // Chris Hubbard // Dalton Risner // Greg Robinson ------------------------- Defense (?): Defensive linemen (10): DE: Myles Garrett // Chris Smith NT: ChristianWilkinsORDerrickBrownORJefferySimmonsORJerryTillery // Trevon Coley // Carl Davis DT: Larry Ogunjobi // Brian Price // (Chad Thomas as 3-Tech) // (Anthony Zettel) DE: Emmanuel Ogbah // (Genard Avery) // Chad Thomas // Anthony Zettel ------------ Linebackers (8): SLB: Christian Kirksey // Genard Avery // Tanner Vallejo MLB: Joe Schobert // // Ray Ray Armstrong WLB: Jamie Collins Sr. // Rookie LB // D'Juan Hines ------------ Corner Backs (8): CB1: Denzel Ward //( Rookie CB) // Tavierre Thomas CB2: Terrance Mitchell // E.J. Gaines // (Damarious Randall) // (T.J. Carrie) NCB: T.J. Carrie // (Briean Boddy-Calhoun) // Denzel Rice ------------ Free Safeties (2): FS: Damarious Randall // Briean Boddy-Calhoun ------------ Strong Safeties (2): SS: Jabrill Peppers // Derrick Kindred ------------ Specialists (?): Kicker (2): Greg Joseph; Rookie Kicker Punter (1):Britton Colquitt; Long snapper (1):Charley Hughlett Edited November 16, 2018 by Mind Character 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Can we please sign frank clark? Omg. Also he won’t cost draft picks. Just like 60-80 mil lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I’d pay top dollar for Frank Clark opposite of Garrett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 @Mind Character brings up an excellent point with Albert OK from Mizzou. We haven't really discussed the TE class much in this forum, but the upcoming class is absolutely LOADED with potentially great TE's. Off the top of my head, I can think of 8 guys who could easily go off the board in the first 2 rounds when it's all said and done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said: @Mind Character brings up an excellent point with Albert OK from Mizzou. We haven't really discussed the TE class much in this forum, but the upcoming class is absolutely LOADED with potentially great TE's. Off the top of my head, I can think of 8 guys who could easily go off the board in the first 2 rounds when it's all said and done. That’s all I’ve done is talk about TEs. I’m pretty much obsessed with 3 of them this year. Fant Ok IRV SMITH JR!!! I wanted Gossett last year to replace DeValve and I want one of these 3 to replace him next year if he can’t get on the field at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, pnies20 said: That’s all I’ve done is talk about TEs. I’m pretty much obsessed with 3 of them this year. Fant Ok IRV SMITH JR!!! I wanted Gossett last year to replace DeValve and I want one of these 3 to replace him next year if he can’t get on the field at all. I really like TJ Hockenson as well. But there's also Kaden Smith, Jace Sternberger, Dawson Knox and Caleb Wilson. I could see any of these guys emerging as TE1 come draft day. Although, I think the ones you listed are probably the most likely to accomplish that feat. Even so, this class is so deep, you could probably walk away with a TE in round 3 who could go round 1 or 2 in other drafts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, MistaBohmbastic said: I really like TJ Hockenson as well. But there's also Kaden Smith, Jace Sternberger, Dawson Knox and Caleb Wilson. I could see any of these guys emerging as TE1 come draft day. Although, I think the ones you listed are probably the most likely to accomplish that feat. Even so, this class is so deep, you could probably walk away with a TE in round 3 who could go round 1 or 2 in other drafts. Dude is really smooth, athletic and has really good hands, there are is a little Travis Kelce to his game. 10 hours ago, bosko1616 said: I’d pay top dollar for Frank Clark opposite of Garrett Straight monster, and if you really pay attention to his game, he anticipated a lot of plays before they even happened based off of formation and motion. I would make him priority #1 for our offseason Edited November 16, 2018 by MSURacerDT55 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, bosko1616 said: I’d pay top dollar for Frank Clark opposite of Garrett 13 hours ago, bosko1616 said: I’d pay top dollar for Frank Clark opposite of Garrett Also I like Irvin dt Dallas has 9 sacks in 10 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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