AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Which team has the best defense in the NFL this year? For reference, here are the DVOA rankings, updated as of last week: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 The Browns are on there but the Cowboys who 2nd ranked in scoring defense just behind the Ravens. 3rd in total defense is not even an option while fielding one of the worst 3out offenses in the nfl is not even an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: The Browns are on there but the Cowboys who 2nd ranked in scoring defense just behind the Ravens. 3rd in total defense is not even an option while fielding one of the worst 3out offenses in the nfl is not even an option? There is no but, 20 sacks, 12 interceptions (best in NFL) 12 forced fumbles (best in NFL), 10 fumble recoveries (best in NFL), 62 passes defended, 1 safety. There isn't a defense close to these numbers combined, taking the ball away and not giving them opportunities trumps all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, MSURacerDT55 said: There is no but, 20 sacks, 12 interceptions (best in NFL) 12 forced fumbles (best in NFL), 10 fumble recoveries (best in NFL), 62 passes defended, 1 safety. There isn't a defense close to these numbers combined, taking the ball away and not giving them opportunities trumps all of that. If the Bears can keep Mack and Trubisky clicking it is 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Calvert28 said: The Browns are on there but the Cowboys who 2nd ranked in scoring defense just behind the Ravens. 3rd in total defense is not even an option while fielding one of the worst 3out offenses in the nfl is not even an option? As he alluded to in the OP, he was just using the clear top 7 in DVOA for the poll. Waste of time to bring up a basic number like scoring defense when you're opponent is quite frankly the best single number there is, DVOA. That being said, numbers combined with eye test, I'd have the Cowboys up there among top Ds myself. Probably would go Browns Bears Ravens Cowboys Nobody else deserves to be ranked at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Browns have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball right now. If they can get a legit coach, they'll be a serious team in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Christ, what a shower compared to most other years. Imagine asking this in 2005 or something. I picked the Bears, but I really don't know. Thought they were quite easy to play against, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Christ, what a shower compared to most other years. Imagine asking this in 2005 or something. I picked the Bears, but I really don't know. Thought they were quite easy to play against, tbh. We didn’t see them with a healthy Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Browns. ??? The garbage raiders lit them up. Give the rams when fully healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: We didn’t see them with a healthy Mack. Yeah, he was clearly hampered against miami and NE, and didn't even dress yesterday for the first time in his career. Hopefully he's fully recovered for next week, the pass rush definitely needs his help, though internally Akiem Hicks is still manhandling folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I don't get how Houston is in this conversation. They beat up on Blake Bortles, Nathan Peterman and Brock Osweiler. They made Eli look like Payton. Blaine Gabbert and a Titans OL down both starting T, a backup T and without Delanie Walker beat them. Andrew Luck threw for close to 500 yards and 4TDs on them. The only decent QB they performed well against was Dak Prescott, and "decent" is a stretch to describe Dak (depending on who you ask). This Houston defense is a nightmare, should not be in the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Jaguars are pretty much demoralized right now...but they are still the best defense. They are often just put in impossible situations by their offense. You get a semi competent QB under center, then all of a sudden this poll becomes much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, ET80 said: I don't get how Houston is in this conversation. They beat up on Blake Bortles, Nathan Peterman and Brock Osweiler. They made Eli look like Payton. Blaine Gabbert and a Titans OL down both starting T, a backup T and without Delanie Walker beat them. Andrew Luck threw for close to 500 yards and 4TDs on them. The only decent QB they performed well against was Dak Prescott, and "decent" is a stretch to describe Dak (depending on who you ask). This Houston defense is a nightmare, should not be in the discussion. I just listed the top 10 DVOA defenses prior to week 8. HOU is like #9 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 DVOA has the Titans in the 20s in most stats yet it's the best redzone defense in football, 3rd best scoring defense in football and manages that despite being on the field the 7th most among defenses. Not that the Titans belong in the conversation for the best because they don't, but they're one of the top 6 or 7, so looking at DVOA ranking them so poorly makes me kinda question wtf DVOA is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I just listed the top 10 DVOA defenses prior to week 8. HOU is like #9 or something. 19 minutes ago, TitanLegend said: makes me kinda question wtf DVOA is doing. I think the bold is where I'm leaning. I mean, can anyone tell me how they calculate DVOA? I don't doubt it's more scientific than something like QBR, but as of now - it's not much different, IMO. Someone has to "show their work" before I take DVOA seriously anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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