Pickle Rick Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Not a huge surprise, just gotta either stick with him or Winston, can't keep flip flopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Makes sense. Koetter wants, NEEDS, to win now and Jameis looks like he has no confidence. I mean look at the teams body language with Fitz vs Jameis. That’s probably even more magnified behind the scenes. Idk if the Glazers gave input on this one or not. But sitting Jameis protects the team from him getting injured on the field and being guaranteed $21 mil next year. That could kill this front office’s off-season flexibility or severely limit a coaching search’s candidates. Makes sense on many fronts. To be clear, Jameis is who he is and it’s not a Brett Favre who is a great gunslinger who throws the occasional turnover, it’s just a guy who has averaged 1.5 turnovers per game to date and 0 playoff appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lil' Shorty said: Makes sense. Koetter wants, NEEDS, to win now and Jameis looks like he has no confidence. I mean look at the teams body language with Fitz vs Jameis. That’s probably even more magnified behind the scenes. Idk if the Glazers gave input on this one or not. But sitting Jameis protects the team from him getting injured on the field and being guaranteed $21 mil next year. That could kill this front office’s off-season flexibility or severely limit a coaching search’s candidates. Makes sense on many fronts. To be clear, Jameis is who he is and it’s not a Brett Favre who is a great gunslinger who throws the occasional turnover, it’s just a guy who has averaged 1.5 turnovers per game to date and 0 playoff appearances. If the team is not paying him next year then they better be looking to trade him by Tuesday. Jacksonville is a team that comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Koetter/Licht only need 6 more wins to survive with historically some of the worst defensive and special teams production in the history of the league. Gotta feeling this marks the first day of the GM search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Honestly if we stuck with fitzmagic I see us winning the bengals and depleted falcons defense. That’s 5-2 right there. Koetter made the choice to save his job. In no way is fitzpatrick perfect or even a strong consistent starter but he’s the better and smarter option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Lil' Shorty said: Makes sense. Koetter wants, NEEDS, to win now and Jameis looks like he has no confidence. I mean look at the teams body language with Fitz vs Jameis. That’s probably even more magnified behind the scenes. Idk if the Glazers gave input on this one or not. But sitting Jameis protects the team from him getting injured on the field and being guaranteed $21 mil next year. That could kill this front office’s off-season flexibility or severely limit a coaching search’s candidates. Makes sense on many fronts. To be clear, Jameis is who he is and it’s not a Brett Favre who is a great gunslinger who throws the occasional turnover, it’s just a guy who has averaged 1.5 turnovers per game to date and 0 playoff appearances. Say that again. He aint no damn brett Favre. Favre had a beautiful deep ball and put up crazy numbers consistently. So you could live with his 4 INT games. Winston just not the guy here. I thought you could coach up getting dumb mistakes or forced throws but I was wrong. Its just who the guy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Do we go back to Jameis when Fitztragic strikes again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Do we go back to Jameis when Fitztragic strikes again? It doesn t matter because the man who ultimately will decide if Winston is on the roster next season is not employed by the team right now. When was the last time it ended well for a head coach playing QB carousel without injury being involved? And no Hue doesn t count. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces22wild Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Fitz plays the rest of the year. Look to move Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, deuces22wild said: Fitz plays the rest of the year. Look to move Winston. Who would take him at this stage? I doubt this regime is allowed to move Winston on. That will probably be up to the new GM/HC that I expect we’ll have next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Do we go back to Jameis when Fitztragic strikes again? Ryan Griffin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Buc Ball said: Ryan Griffin ? He's been here for four years and hasn't played a single snap. ? But when Fitztragic happens, I'd give him a look. Maybe he Petermans it and throws five INTs in a half. But that's not really worse than what we've seen thus far this season. ? Maybe he Glennons it and we think we've got something for a year before a draft where actual QBs are coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces22wild Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: Who would take him at this stage? I doubt this regime is allowed to move Winston on. That will probably be up to the new GM/HC that I expect we’ll have next season. Maybe true. I am sure all of the situations have already been played out months before. As far as teams... maybe Den, maybe NY. For a team trying to make the playoffs is the distraction really needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, bucsfan333 said: Do we go back to Jameis when Fitztragic strikes again? We shouldn’t be playing musical qbs. Frankly fitz had one bad half and redeemed himself. He never really lost the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: He's been here for four years and hasn't played a single snap. ? But when Fitztragic happens, I'd give him a look. Maybe he Petermans it and throws five INTs in a half. But that's not really worse than what we've seen thus far this season. ? Maybe he Glennons it and we think we've got something for a year before a draft where actual QBs are coming out. We’ll never know unless we put him in at some point. I think the bigger question this week is whether Winston will even be active. I’ve not read the article on the Bucs’ page, so that might already be covered, but if he is, it suggests he’s not quite done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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