Cadmus Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: I have no faith in Josh Jones. He is fine in the box but guy can't play deep at least from the sample size of last season. We basically only have box safeties and Brice at this point. FIFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have no idea what Pettine and Co. will do, but for myself I think you give first crack to Jones unless he's been truly abysmal in practice. There's simply too much physical talent there not to at least see if he can figure it out. Whitehead already has a role as the dime back/utility DB, and while I like Greene he's certainly not getting the nod before Jones. I know everyone wants to move a CB there, but I honestly dislike that move generally. The positions aren't as similar as they seem, and an older CB has a lot of built in habits they have to ignore. They can usually be serviceable, but there's little chance of anything more than that. On top of all of that, the Packers have good man coverage CBs which helps negate the damage poor deep coverage will do. It just seems like if ever there was a time to give Josh his shot, it's now. Or maybe next week, starting him against the Pats seems a little like throwing him to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Why waste a roster spot on Trevor Davis when we have Randall Cobb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: Why waste a roster spot on Trevor Davis when we have Randall Cobb? Davis is the only player on the roster that I feel has a legitimate chance of breaking a big return. Maybe MVS on kick-offs (and Alexander on punts, but zero chance of that happening), but literally anyone else is just putting a body out there to catch the ball. That's fine, the Packers have Rodgers, but if you want the return game to be any kind of a positive, Davis is the guy IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, MrBobGray said: Davis is the only player on the roster that I feel has a legitimate chance of breaking a big return. Maybe MVS on kick-offs (and Alexander on punts, but zero chance of that happening), but literally anyone else is just putting a body out there to catch the ball. That's fine, the Packers have Rodgers, but if you want the return game to be any kind of a positive, Davis is the guy IMO. We shouldn't even have a returner for kick offs. Just a kick off catcher would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Jones was pissed he wasn't starting, Mac was happy to hear someone was pissed about wanting to play, Jones had to earn it. He turned in the best ST performance of the season yesterday. He gets the nod to me. In 3rd and long or obvious passing downs you put him up in the box and put Tramon or Breeland back there. Only guy I don't want to see if Jackson. Dude is a CB, don't waste him at S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Packerraymond said: Jones was pissed he wasn't starting, Mac was happy to hear someone was pissed about wanting to play, Jones had to earn it. He turned in the best ST performance of the season yesterday. He gets the nod to me. In 3rd and long or obvious passing downs you put him up in the box and put Tramon or Breeland back there. Only guy I don't want to see if Jackson. Dude is a CB, don't waste him at S. Hell put em in Whiteheads role on third downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBobGray Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Packerraymond said: Jones was pissed he wasn't starting, Mac was happy to hear someone was pissed about wanting to play, Jones had to earn it. He turned in the best ST performance of the season yesterday. He gets the nod to me. In 3rd and long or obvious passing downs you put him up in the box and put Tramon or Breeland back there. Only guy I don't want to see if Jackson. Dude is a CB, don't waste him at S. I'm on-board with all of this, but honestly I'm leaving Jones out there even on long passing downs at least for a little. The Packers need to see if he can find enough of a feel playing deep to not be a liability, because if not they'll probably want to invest in safety in a significant way either in the draft or FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Gopackgonerd said: Hell put em in Whiteheads role on third downs Nah Whitehead has played well there. Leave him in that role. Jones is the athlete to get it done, just need reps IMO. He's a punk too like Jaire, if it clicks for him there's a whole lot of attitude and swagger we haven't had on this D in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I thought the knock on Jones was that he’s bad in coverage. Why would we want him at FS then? We’d have 2 safeties who couldn’t cover anyone. How about Tramon at FS and Jones at SS? Let Jackson take Tramon’s spot at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, MrBobGray said: Davis is the only player on the roster that I feel has a legitimate chance of breaking a big return. Maybe MVS on kick-offs (and Alexander on punts, but zero chance of that happening), but literally anyone else is just putting a body out there to catch the ball. That's fine, the Packers have Rodgers, but if you want the return game to be any kind of a positive, Davis is the guy IMO. We have Rodgers and offensive weapons that I like. I just want the kick returner and punt returner to not screw up (this is not a new opinion from me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Nah Whitehead has played well there. Leave him in that role. Jones is the athlete to get it done, just need reps IMO. He's a punk too like Jaire, if it clicks for him there's a whole lot of attitude and swagger we haven't had on this D in awhile. Ya I've always felt that too, he was just never given a chance this year on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, thrILL! said: I thought the knock on Jones was that he’s bad in coverage. Why would we want him at FS then? We’d have 2 safeties who couldn’t cover anyone. How about Tramon at FS and Jones at SS? Let Jackson take Tramon’s spot at CB. I think like one game vs the panthers he gave up a big play, but I don't recall if he did on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, thrILL! said: I thought the knock on Jones was that he’s bad in coverage. Why would we want him at FS then? We’d have 2 safeties who couldn’t cover anyone. How about Tramon at FS and Jones at SS? Let Jackson take Tramon’s spot at CB. See what Jones has. If he is awful, we need a stronger investment at safety. Then we just hope it isn't a flash in the pan like Brad Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think we see Tramon fill HHCD role tbh. He played some safety in Cleveland under Pettine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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