tyler735 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Brees and Mahomes both have excellent arguments that can be made for it at this point. I'm still amazed that Brees has just 1 interception through 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Forge said: I thought about adding Ryan as well. Ryan's team has just been too bad so far for him to have any chance at the MVP, but if he keeps up his current play and makes a strong playoff push I could see him at least in the conversation. Statistically Ryan is having a slightly better year than he did in 2016 when he won MVP, but the competition this year is much higher. Mahomes and Brees will have to fall off a bit for Ryan to have a realistic shot at actually winning (I'd give it well less than a 1% chance despite his numbers). Still an incredible season for Ryan in what would've been a completely lost season if not for his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, megatechpc said: Ryan's team has just been too bad so far for him to have any chance at the MVP, but if he keeps up his current play and makes a strong playoff push I could see him at least in the conversation. Statistically Ryan is having a slightly better year than he did in 2016 when he won MVP, but the competition this year is much higher. Mahomes and Brees will have to fall off a bit for Ryan to have a realistic shot at actually winning (I'd give it well less than a 1% chance despite his numbers). Still an incredible season for Ryan in what would've been a completely lost season if not for his play. Falcons seem to be getting their act together. Ryan could definitely be a legit candidate by the end of the season, and the Falcons could still win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, footbull3196 said: Mahomes has a leg up, but I think Cam is playing the best football of his career and it's good to see that he was mentioned in here. He's definitely a dark horse candidate given that he's completing 65% of his passes when he's struggled to reach 60% for his career and yet he still has everything else to offer that he did before cams not a real contender... he has a ypa just a notch above 7 and during a time when elite totals in passing yards are in the 5k range hes unlikely to get to 4. he has no argument against brees or rivers, heck, gurley coud have a better case than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, GSUeagles14 said: cams not a real contender... he has a ypa just a notch above 7 and during a time when elite totals in passing yards are in the 5k range hes unlikely to get to 4. he has no argument against brees or rivers, heck, gurley coud have a better case than him. Agreed. Cam is on this list because the Panthers are 6-2, not because of his individual play. He is having a fantastic year, don't get me wrong, but not statistically close to the level of guys like Mahomes, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Ryan, Goff etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's going to be interesting. Honestly, I think Mahomes needs to keep his pace to beat Brees. Brees is going to have the sentimental vote for sure. He's never won an MVP if I remember right, career winding down and he's having another one of those hall of fame worthy seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Rivers should be on that list. He is on pace for the 2nd highest any/a in NFL history. I don't think people realize how efficient he has been so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, footbull3196 said: Mahomes has a leg up, but I think Cam is playing the best football of his career and it's good to see that he was mentioned in here. He's definitely a dark horse candidate given that he's completing 65% of his passes when he's struggled to reach 60% for his career and yet he still has everything else to offer that he did before Comp % seems to be inflated for everyone this year. There are several guys above 70, and Brees, who is right at 70 normally, is closer to 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, game3525 said: Rivers should be on that list. He is one pace for the 2nd highest any/a in NFL history. I don't think people realize how efficient he has been so far this year. He's my number 3. Pretty incredible what he has done so far. It's hard to beat Brees and Mahomes right now, but he has to be next man up in my opinion. Hope he keeps it up all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Jlowe22 said: Comp % seems to be inflated for everyone this year. There are several guys above 70, and Brees, who is right at 70 normally, is closer to 80. God I wish I could have seen what Steve Young would have done in this era lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jlowe22 said: Falcons seem to be getting their act together. Ryan could definitely be a legit candidate by the end of the season, and the Falcons could still win the division. HA! BEst case scenario falcons are two back from the saints (assuming here they beat the saint in a couple weeks), falcons would have to go on an insane run and need the saints to lose a couple they should win. Realistically falcons are a wc team best case, and that may even be a stretch. However, heres my thoughts on where things are Mahomes Brees Rivers Gurley Ryan (if falcons get in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Forge said: He's my number 3. Pretty incredible what he has done so far. It's hard to beat Brees and Mahomes right now, but he has to be next man up in my opinion. Hope he keeps it up all year. Yeah, I have Mahomes and Brees ahead. But Rivers should be in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, GSUeagles14 said: HA! BEst case scenario falcons are two back from the saints (assuming here they beat the saint in a couple weeks), falcons would have to go on an insane run and need the saints to lose a couple they should win. Realistically falcons are a wc team best case, and that may even be a stretch. However, heres my thoughts on where things are Mahomes Brees Rivers Gurley Ryan (if falcons get in) I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all to think Falcons could go on a run and the Saints could drop a few. Falcons already almost beat the Saints, and the Saints have won several close games they easily could have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobikus Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, footbull3196 said: Mahomes has a leg up, but I think Cam is playing the best football of his career and it's good to see that he was mentioned in here. He's definitely a dark horse candidate given that he's completing 65% of his passes when he's struggled to reach 60% for his career and yet he still has everything else to offer that he did before Cam is playing very well and probably on the level of the people actually in the conversation, but not in a way that translates to pretty passer rating #s relative to the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Mahomes and Brees are neck and neck IMO. The edge to Mahomes. A lot of football left though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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