coordinator0 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 21 hours ago, DreamKid said: On this note, does anybody think it's worth it to subscribe to The Athletic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Nope, not as a european. I doubt the can supply me with news regarding the Ravens that I won't be able to find elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraven Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 hours ago, coordinator0 said: On this note, does anybody think it's worth it to subscribe to The Athletic? i decided to give it a whirl, iv never been a huge subscription guy but I like jeff and said wth, its only 40 bucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 3:19 PM, coordinator0 said: On this note, does anybody think it's worth it to subscribe to The Athletic? No, everything is essentially reposted on MLBTR or PFT or any other corresponding sports site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 ESPN's list of the most out sized contracts adjusting for position in 2018- http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24107215/nfl-20-most-outsized-contracts-adjusting-position-2018 1 current Raven made the list- 12. Justin Tucker, K, Baltimore Ravens Three-year compensation: $13.8 million (34.8 percent over baseline) It makes sense to approach Gostkowski and Tucker together as the two kickers on this list. They're also about to reset the market, given that Gostkowski will be a free agent after the 2018 season, while Tucker's contract expires after the 2019 campaign. The Ravens have seemingly annual cap problems, but it's difficult to imagine them letting Tucker leave, given that the former undrafted free agent will only be 30 in 2020. It's more plausible that the Patriots could move on from Gostkowski, given that their long-time kicker turns 35 in January. Bill Belichick let Adam Vinatieri leave in free agency for a big offer from the Colts after the Super Bowl hero's age-33 season. 3 former Ravens made the list- 18. Kelechi Osemele, G, Oakland Raiders Three-year compensation: $36.9 million (31 percent over baseline) The Raiders took a huge step backward on offense in 2017, but the problems seemed more schematic after the organization replaced offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave with overmatched quarterbacks coach Todd Downing. Osemele might have been surprised to find himself in the Pro Bowl, but the Ravens' product remains one of the best interior linemen. Worth noting: There was some thought in 2016 that Oakland was signing Osemele as a guard with a view to moving him out to left tackle after Donald Penn eventually moved on, which would have helped justify giving Osemele a larger contract. The decision to draft Kolton Miller in the first round this year will likely keep Osemele inside for the remainder of this deal, which runs through the 2020 season. 14. Ryan Jensen, C, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Three-year compensation: $32.3 million (33.2 percent over baseline) The Buccaneers made a guy who was a tackle in college and a guard for most of his pro career the highest-paid center in the league this offseason, which is a testament to how desperate they were for offensive line help, and how Jensen looked in his first season at the pivot since high school. The Buccaneers are aggressive about maintaining flexibility in their long-term deals, so this is really a two-year, $22 million deal with two team options at $10 million each, but when teams make a guy one of the highest-paid players at his position after one season in the role, it rarely works out. 1. Kyle Juszczyk, FB, San Francisco 49ers Three-year compensation: $15.5 million (183.6 percent over baseline) And then, in a stratosphere far away from any other deal, lurks Juszczyk. The Harvard product is making $5.3 million per year at a position in which the second-largest multiyear deal averages $2.5 million per season. The $21 million he's in line to take home over four years is nearly as large as the second-, third- and fourth-largest fullback extensions combined. As was the case in Baltimore, Juszczyk's season was only superficially a success. He made the Pro Bowl for the second season, which is a product of the league's antiquated roster structure with its all-star game as opposed to excellent work. He contributed nothing as a runner, and while his receiving DVOA narrowly tipped to the positive side at 3.7 percent, whatever impact he had as a receiver was more than offset by the fact that Juszczyk fumbled twice on 38 touches. The 49ers also averaged more yards per carry (4.2) and ran for first downs more frequently (24 percent) when Juszczyk was off the field than they did when he was on it, as those runs produced 4.0 yards per carry and a first-down rate of 19.3 percent. The 49ers would point out that Juszczyk's versatility in Kyle Shanahan's scheme allows the offense to create mismatches, and it's true that he did have more success once the team acquired Garoppolo. At the same time, though, merely being versatile doesn't mean that Juszczyk is a difference-maker in multiple facets of the game, and the amount he's being paid suggests that he should at least be an impactful receiver or blocker, if not both. San Francisco also negotiated against themselves to make the Juszczyk signing. If they saw Juszczyk as a player who might be worth $5 million or more per season in their scheme, that should have been an opportunity for them to sign him at a bargain rate, given that no other fullback in the league comes close to his salary. It's not a huge mistake, but we saw the 49ers do the same thing again this offseason in giving halfback Jerick McKinnon $12 million for 2018 as part of a four-year, $30 million pact. Even if you wanted to pay a premium for McKinnon -- and it's unclear why the 49ers felt like they needed to pay a premium for any running back in a scheme that has generated excellent running backs out of nowhere for decades -- nobody was valuing backs with McKinnon's track record this offseason at anywhere close to $12 million for one year or $7.5 million over four. Organizations that focus on a specific player at a position and overpay him as opposed to trusting their ability to find a player at a position with a particular skill set for the market rate fail more often than not. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ FWIW, all the other teams represented are paying humans and deserve the scrutiny. We're paying a GOAT brahah X---------X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Osemele got a bad out blocking for Carr. If flacco needs a good oline to be effectful, carr needs it even more. Jensen is all about if he can improve. If he can do that, Bucs got a key piece for their oline, but I can understand the scrutiny. Juice is all about how he is used. In their description, it doesn't say if the low avg per carry/run when he is on the field is due to short yardage situations. Otherwise, 49'ers got a multitool who can block, run, catch and play every special teams, no character concerns or injuries to be mentioned. Used correctly, they got a good player on a good contract. If you are faulting a team for paying the best player at the position and the most precise kicker who has been it since he stepped into the league, especially a team like the Ravens who are so dependent on a good kicker, you shouldn't write a peace like that. Then you are just showing, that you are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edgar Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Does anyone have concerns about Ronnie Stanley in pass protection? Perhaps it is an issue of not being fully healthy but he really struggled vs. Watt, Garrett, Sheard, et. al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Edgar said: Does anyone have concerns about Ronnie Stanley in pass protection? Perhaps it is an issue of not being fully healthy but he really struggled vs. Watt, Garrett, Sheard, et. al. My only concern is, that he doesn't seem to be that franchise left tackle like a Tyron Smith or Trent Williams. He improved his run blocking and is a good enough pass protector, but he isn't elite and he has durability issues. Watch the Green Bay Packers game from last year to get a glimpse of how important he is. The left side of Hurst and Bowanko really hindered the offense in that game. Actually, that oline was really really bad. Skura and Howard was beat constantly and several times, 6 man pass protection couldn't keep a 3-4 man pass rush away from the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 3:34 AM, Danand said: Osemele got a bad out blocking for Carr. If flacco needs a good oline to be effectful, carr needs it even more. Jensen is all about if he can improve. If he can do that, Bucs got a key piece for their oline, but I can understand the scrutiny. Juice is all about how he is used. In their description, it doesn't say if the low avg per carry/run when he is on the field is due to short yardage situations. Otherwise, 49'ers got a multitool who can block, run, catch and play every special teams, no character concerns or injuries to be mentioned. Used correctly, they got a good player on a good contract. If you are faulting a team for paying the best player at the position and the most precise kicker who has been it since he stepped into the league, especially a team like the Ravens who are so dependent on a good kicker, you shouldn't write a peace like that. Then you are just showing, that you are stupid. I was going to say the same, but was too lazy to type anything out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, sp6488 said: I was going to say the same, but was too lazy to type anything out. I get tired as well when people/journalists make references to statistics. It is almost every time a statistic which support their claim instead of an enlightening instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Random Thought: Can someone tell Harbs that we need to rock the 'business as usuals' again on a regular basis? For the uninitiated, the 'Business as Usual' is the white top, black pants. Top 3 Ravens uniform of all-time! We were so tough wearing those. AND, AND we won a Superbowl in the Business as Usuals. I marked. Ok, I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Great article on the stupidity of the Seahawk's organization. How tragic the Seahawk's lack of analytics usage and comprehension there of is. Plus how we benefit in the form of one Alex Collins- http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2018/lack-of-attention-to-analytics-how-a-team-misunderstood-a-starter-caliber-player-cut-him-and-overpaid-to-replace-him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, RavensfanRD said: Random Thought: Can someone tell Harbs that we need to rock the 'business as usuals' again on a regular basis? For the uninitiated, the 'Business as Usual' is the white top, black pants. Top 3 Ravens uniform of all-time! We were so tough wearing those. AND, AND we won a Superbowl in the Business as Usuals. I marked. Ok, I'm done. I am all for a trio of jerseys where the all purple color rush is the primary, the all white is for away games and then the all black for special occassion. The other combinations are too bland, especially the purple and white combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, DreamKid said: Great article on the stupidity of the Seahawk's organization. How tragic the Seahawk's lack of analytics usage and comprehension there of is. Plus how we benefit in the form of one Alex Collins- http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2018/lack-of-attention-to-analytics-how-a-team-misunderstood-a-starter-caliber-player-cut-him-and-overpaid-to-replace-him I mean, in their defense, when Collins was there he wasn't flashing as much and he had major fumble issues. He was just another guy in a logjam of guys, and nobody even thought twice about it when they released him. Some guys just put it together, and it seems Collins did that here rather than there - not to mention we have a much better running philosophy and OL than the Seahawks do, and Collins isn't a guy who's going to break 3 tackles in the backfield and turn -3 yard runs into 5 yard runs like Marshawn Lynch did. That being said, the way the Seahawks handled their RB situation post-Lynch has been an absolute joke. They whiffed on Lacy, Rawls was garbage after his injury, CJ Prosise can't stay healthy and is basically just a 3rd down back anyways, and other than that you've got a collection of nobodies running behind an OL that's horrible with really no philosophy in your run game because it used to be "hand the ball to Marshawn and he'll do the rest". It's really baffling how they've handled that. Now they reach on a 1st round RB and the only thing I've seen about him is that he lead the NCAA in forced missed tackles last year. We'll see how that pans out, but man, they really messed up that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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