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17 hours ago, Danand said:

4-5 going into the bye.

Packers with Hundley - Should be a win

Texans at home against Savage - Should be a win

Lions - Imo, this should be a win as well

Steelers - they are just a better team

Browns - HA, if we lose, someones fired

Colts with Brisset - Should be a win

Bengals - they have our number, we lose but finish 9-7

 

We are not done yet, but we have to change a lot, especially on offense. Step 1, eliminate Perriman on offense, it is just not going to happen. More aggressive playcalling, the conservative **** is killing us. Release Alex Collins

Agreed, but I think we lose to the Lions to us 8-8. The worst record you want with an old team.

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I could see us having a winning record. But losing the tie breaker to Tennessee could really come back to hurt us. But we did beat Oakland so maybe

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23 minutes ago, M.10.E said:

Got our boy Bernard Pollard firing shots at Harbaugh.

As much as I love Harbs, it is starting to get to the point where when you're biggest asset to the team is your ability to lead, motivate and prepare and that seemingly isn't enough to get the team over the hurdle, it may be time to let him know the seat is getting warmer. Harbs, for better or worse has always been the guy to let his coordinators coordinate, but when those coordinators have continuously been underwhelming and remain around due in large part to nepotism and blind loyalty, at that point he he has to share in the blame for the failures of the team.

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24 minutes ago, RavensTillIDie said:

As much as I love Harbs, it is starting to get to the point where when you're biggest asset to the team is your ability to lead, motivate and prepare and that seemingly isn't enough to get the team over the hurdle, it may be time to let him know the seat is getting warmer. Harbs, for better or worse has always been the guy to let his coordinators coordinate, but when those coordinators have continuously been underwhelming and remain around due in large part to nepotism and blind loyalty, at that point he he has to share in the blame for the failures of the team.

Yep. I mean it's the flip side of the coin that was used to boost up Harbs back in the day. Regardless of whether his style of coaching was different/more hands-on/less scheme-oriented, etc. etc. what seemed to be true is that he was pulling together a team that could compete and win. We don't care how the sausage is made, we just care that it tastes good. Harbaugh might still be a good leader of men/someone who connects with his players blah blah blah but if your team looks sloppy and unprepared on a weekly basis then it starts to become clear that whatever good Harbaugh is capable of isn't actually translating with the players/making a difference on the field or in the wins column. And if you're a coach who leaves a lot up to your coordinators and you' have a demonstrated track record of hiring terrible assistants because of nepotism, then that becomes the hill you end up dying on. 

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Pretty terrible.. He better ride the bench rest of the season. Dude has had 3 years to prove he can at least catch, and hasnt done it

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32 minutes ago, paraven said:

Pretty terrible.. He better ride the bench rest of the season. Dude has had 3 years to prove he can at least catch, and hasnt done it

Logic would say bench him, but from everything we've seen, the only thing that's going to happen is him getting more and more snaps so that after the season, the organization can just use his bulk stats to say he improved.

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1 minute ago, Darth Pees said:

I'm at a loss of words for this. 

Why? This offense DOES have an identity. That it's trash.

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somewhere during the offseason i was fed the opinion that JH hung his future onto MM and DP. whoever said this better be true.

he chose to keep his coordinators whose flawes were already very apparent laast season. there is no way he should be given a pass with how both O and D "ddeveloped" this season.

and this quote regarding the identity of the offense is just mind blowing. time to move on, he either is in full neglect or just simply doesn't know what an NFL offense should look like.

 

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If we had faced strong teams aka. A difficult schedule, we shouldn’t be too unhappy about being 4-5 going into the bye week. The thing is that with how inept we have been on offense, we can’t fault anyone for being pessimistic going into the second half of the season. We lost Yanda, Woodhead, Dixon, Lewis who were starters or important parts of a rotation. Siragusa, Waller and the revolving door which have been the tight end and receiving position in general doesn’t help.

But how the plays have been called, the script on offense and the execution of it has overall been bad with a few highlights and glimpses of what we (Flacco) can do on offense. This is the thing that needs to change. We went into the season with analysts and experts pointing towards us being a ball control team with a few big plays down field, supported by an elite defense.

The defense has had it glimpses of dominance, but in several games they haven’t been able to seal the game and going from good to great. The inability to stop the run has been the biggest upset and just shouldn’t happen with how we invested in the defense. Overall, we can’t be unhappy though. Pees could have been better, he could certainly also have been worse.

On both sides of the ball, the conservative approach is the reason we are 4-5. On offense we try not to lose (although it actually happened because of Oline, Flacco and liability at the WR position), and on defense we don’t play to win but stay conservative. We had a chance to win in Tennessee and then failed to close Mariotta down on their last drive.

With us facing so many backups at QB this season, it is certainly disappointing that we are where we are, but we CAN turn it around, but that also means we have to make the aggressive changes. This is where I doubt our team from Bisciotti to coaching staff to Flacco, as all seem content to let the second half of the season play out as the first half.

We all know to which record this approach lead – it’s the perfect Jeff Fisher zone, where we are close enough to the promised land to talk about how slight changes in the off season will get us over the hump and next season we will be more healthy.

BS.

We have a what seems like a great secondary this year – let them play and use the athleticism we have on outside linebacker to attack the offense. A healthy Tim Williams should be exciting and a spark to the contain rush we always seem to rely on for 90% of the game.

On offense, I still have confidence enough in Flacco that if we give him the protection, he can find receivers like Maclin, a tight end an whoever we think can actually catch the ball, whether it is Moore, Wallace, Adeboyojo, Campanaro or the running back in the flat. But the play designs have to be more than friggin 2-5 yards down the field.

More aggressive plays down field could be the key to open up just 1-2 more yards to get Collins out into the open field. He might fumble, but he also might run it 30 yards down the field. This is the more risk aversed offense I’d like to see, where we are not content on the “keeping the game close” narrative and then hope we can make some magic happen in the last 3-4 minutes to get the final lead.

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1 hour ago, Danand said:

 

On both sides of the ball, the conservative approach is the reason we are 4-5. On offense we try not to lose (although it actually happened because of Oline, Flacco and liability at the WR position), and on defense we don’t play to win but stay conservative. We had a chance to win in Tennessee and then failed to close Mariotta down on their last drive.

With us facing so many backups at QB this season, it is certainly disappointing that we are where we are, but we CAN turn it around, but that also means we have to make the aggressive changes. This is where I doubt our team from Bisciotti to coaching staff to Flacco, as all seem content to let the second half of the season play out as the first half.

We all know to which record this approach lead – it’s the perfect Jeff Fisher zone, where we are close enough to the promised land to talk about how slight changes in the off season will get us over the hump and next season we will be more healthy.

BS.

We have a what seems like a great secondary this year – let them play and use the athleticism we have on outside linebacker to attack the offense. A healthy Tim Williams should be exciting and a spark to the contain rush we always seem to rely on for 90% of the game.

On offense, I still have confidence enough in Flacco that if we give him the protection, he can find receivers like Maclin, a tight end an whoever we think can actually catch the ball, whether it is Moore, Wallace, Adeboyojo, Campanaro or the running back in the flat. But the play designs have to be more than friggin 2-5 yards down the field.

More aggressive plays down field could be the key to open up just 1-2 more yards to get Collins out into the open field. He might fumble, but he also might run it 30 yards down the field. This is the more risk aversed offense I’d like to see, where we are not content on the “keeping the game close” narrative and then hope we can make some magic happen in the last 3-4 minutes to get the final lead.

Nailed it.

 

We are a worse version of the Jaguars.

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2 hours ago, M.10.E said:

Nailed it.

 

We are a worse version of the Jaguars.

What we want to/should be is this years vikings.

If we had receivers who play like Diggs and Thielen, we don't lose to the Jaguars and the Titans could very well go the other way also, and then we are 6-3 and everything looks much brighter.

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John Gruden after the year is over? Unless we get a miracle wildcard berth, I think its curtains for the entire coaching staff. What say you? I had a casual convo with a friend who said he'd like the look of Gruden in Baltimore. I like Gruden, but don't see the fit.

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