packfanfb Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe said: Except the one time he took the ball away from AP his rookie year and ran it back for a TD....RB, I know but... An all-time great play by Clay no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, packfanfb said: Only complaint I had about Clay Matthews over his career, and it's a minor one, is that he never mastered the art of the "strip sack." Guy was so out of control coming in like a heat-seeking missile to sack the QB, he rarely went for the ball, lol. Indeed, in his 10-year career at GB, according to NFL.com, Clay forced 15 fumbles. Not terrible, but not great for a guy who was a premier EDGE player at one time. In comparison, when we look at two of the all-time greats regarding the strip-sack, Julius Peppers and Von Miller, Peppers forced 51 fumbles in 17 years and Miller has forced 25 fumbles in 8 years in the league. The forced fumble issue never even came to mind with me. The over running the play did. He was out of control far to often when he'd get by the OL on both riunning plays and pas plays. That would be my only complaint. I will miss him, I'm sad he's gone but for that money, LA can have him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I guess we wait until next Tuesday for more FA news from 1265. Seems that's the day for news this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, eyecatcher said: The forced fumble issue never even came to mind with me. The over running the play did. He was out of control far to often when he'd get by the OL on both riunning plays and pas plays. That would be my only complaint. I will miss him, I'm sad he's gone but for that money, LA can have him. I'll say this. I've never seen another defensive player close in the last 5 yards like prime-of-his-career Clay Matthews. That 1.49 10-yard split was the real deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Norm said: I can actually tolerate him since I feel like I'm "in on the joke" with him. But sadly it seems like, not anyone here necessarily, think he's actually being serious. Dude always has this **** eating grin after he says some crazy **** to let everyone know but still it works on them. These programs have the same formula: put people together who yell conflicting opinions at each other and for some reason, people watch. The "protagonists" have some usual or typical takes on certain players, teams, sports and such - repeat them over and over again ginning up "dissension" and "controversy" and viewership. It's a daily program and they've got to have something to say - so the edgier the better. A waste of time IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Leader said: These programs have the same formula: put people together who yell conflicting opinions at each other and for some reason, people watch. The "protagonists" have some usual or typical takes on certain players, teams, sports and such - repeat them over and over again ginning up "dissension" and "controversy" and viewership. It's a daily program and they've got to have something to say - so the edgier the better. A waste of time IMO. Sound a lot like this forum. But you waste a lot of time here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Leader said: These programs have the same formula: put people together who yell conflicting opinions at each other and for some reason, people watch. The "protagonists" have some usual or typical takes on certain players, teams, sports and such - repeat them over and over again ginning up "dissension" and "controversy" and viewership. It's a daily program and they've got to have something to say - so the edgier the better. A waste of time IMO. No doubt. I had a nervous breakdown this week just trying to find some real breakdown of the NCAA games. But I heard about Kobe's ******* children's book 50 times. Thanks ESPN! Finally I just threw up some gambling dudes videos from YouTube so I can at least hear about something that's actually sports and not TMZ level garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, eyecatcher said: Sound a lot like this forum. But you waste a lot of time here. He's here for my comedy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistfullofbeer Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Norm said: I can actually tolerate him since I feel like I'm "in on the joke" with him. But sadly it seems like, not anyone here necessarily, think he's actually being serious. Dude always has this **** eating grin after he says some crazy **** to let everyone know but still it works on them. Yep. His goal generally is to antagonize the people he is talking to, whether fellow analysts, guests or just the audience. Work them into a frenzy by saying nonsensical stuff. I think if you watch his show, going in with any other expectation is just not setting them right. Which is exactly why I try to avoid watching/hearing whatever he has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, fistfullofbeer said: Yep. His goal generally is to antagonize the people he is talking to, whether fellow analysts, guests or just the audience. Work them into a frenzy by saying nonsensical stuff. I think if you watch his show, going in with any other expectation is just not setting them right. Which is exactly why I try to avoid watching/hearing whatever he has to say. My favorite Skip Bayless video is the one where he argues against himself...the A. Aron one that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Curtis Riley is visiting the Raiders. When he came to visit us, we told him, "Hey, we're gonna be honest with you. We want you to sign with us, but if either Nasir Adderley or Chauncey Gardner-Johnson are available 30th overall, we're planning on signing them and hoping they'll take your spot. So all you've got to do is beat a rookie and you'll be our starter." I thought it was strange I had never heard Riley's name before considering his 16 starts and 4 interceptions, but PFF had him at 58. I know PFF is crap for DB ratings, but they're generally accurate in that when they've got someone rated poorly, they're not very good. For comparison, Josh Jones was rated at 61. Source: Imagination. Edited March 20, 2019 by Outpost31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, eyecatcher said: Sound a lot like this forum. But you waste a lot of time here. I'll address your comment as if posed seriously - and disagree. This forum is actually more informative than those programs even try to be. The thrust of my comment was that the hosts of those shows pair off into contrived discussions / arguments with intent (IMO) to rile up and play off fan biases and attitudes - on a very short list of "headline" topics. There's a sameness to the programming - they discuss what keeps their viewership high (again IMO) with tends to limit what their discussing: Lebron, the Lakers, Brady, BB, Dak, Jerry, the Cowboys.......it's a formula to promote viewership - not information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Leader said: I'll address your comment as if posed seriously - and disagree. This forum is actually more informative than those programs even try to be. The thrust of my comment was that the hosts of those shows pair off into contrived discussions / arguments with intent (IMO) to rile up and play off fan biases and attitudes - on a very short list of "headline" topics. There's a sameness to the programming - they discuss what keeps their viewership high (again IMO) with tends to limit what their discussing: Lebron, the Lakers, Brady, BB, Dak, Jerry, the Cowboys.......it's a formula to promote viewership - not information. The winky face kinda gives away his intentions... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Leader said: I'll address your comment as if posed seriously - I knew you would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: The winky face kinda gives away his intentions... Glad someone understood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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