packfanfb Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The Beaz....all the guy does is get open. He'd be a great addition to the WR room. Wonder what his price tag is going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: @Outpost31 and I high 5. Good good. This means LaFleur is probably excited about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: @Outpost31 and I high 5. 6 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Me too. This is Good. Me three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Good good. This means LaFleur is probably excited about him. This is what I'm hoping as well. Hopefully LaFleur got some input on this decision and Graham is truly still here because there are plans to utilize what's left of his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Cutting Graham was such a non possibility given the trash that is out there in free agency and the potential cap savings. There's still hope Graham can be the WR2/2nd receiving option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 shouldve just resigned Jared Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, gopackgo247 said: shouldve just resigned Jared Cook. I doubt he makes it to the open market this time ... agreed we should have ponied up a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I doubt he makes it to the open market this time ... agreed we should have ponied up a few years ago. just one of the many head scratching roster decisions in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I doubt he makes it to the open market this time ... agreed we should have ponied up a few years ago. From what I've read his agent kind of messed that up too and he got less money from Oakland than he could have got from GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: From what I've read his agent kind of messed that up too and he got less money from Oakland than he could have got from GB. Yep. 2 sides to that not working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: From what I've read his agent kind of messed that up too and he got less money from Oakland than he could have got from GB. this is why you need Saul Goodman as your agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: This means LaFleur is probably excited about him. Legitimate question - why? It sounds like LaFleur utilizes in-line TE's quite often in his zone scheme. I'm curious where we see Graham fitting in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cheech said: Legitimate question - why? It sounds like LaFleur utilizes in-line TE's quite often in his zone scheme. I'm curious where we see Graham fitting in there? I would argue the following: First off, through 8 games, despite all of the dysfunction, Graham was on pace for 850 yds for the year. Then he injured the thumb in game 10. Set the contract aside for a moment- would a team cut a guy who could produce 850 as a tight end? Especially if your wide receiver corp is going into 2019 with only Adams as a proven producer? No one really knows what the group of Allison, EVS, EQ, and J'mon will be in year two, so Graham gives something of a known quantity, that won't be probowl, but can give some solid production especially if used better. Seocnd, while Lafleur used in line tight ends in Tennessee, I would hope the selection of Lafleur was partly based on the ability to be creative with what he has for talent, and not be married to a system that would get used regardless of the personnel available. The argument for getting rid of Graham is largely a financial one, and this year the finances aren't critical. Now, that could change if they get some huge talent on the hook in free agency, but for now it isn't a critical concern. I think it would be hard to do a total rebuild of the position without overpaying somewhat for talent in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ragnar Danneskjold said: I would argue the following: First off, through 8 games, despite all of the dysfunction, Graham was on pace for 850 yds for the year. Then he injured the thumb in game 10. Set the contract aside for a moment- would a team cut a guy who could produce 850 as a tight end? Especially if your wide receiver corp is going into 2019 with only Adams as a proven producer? No one really knows what the group of Allison, EVS, EQ, and J'mon will be in year two, so Graham gives something of a known quantity, that won't be probowl, but can give some solid production especially if used better. Seocnd, while Lafleur used in line tight ends in Tennessee, I would hope the selection of Lafleur was partly based on the ability to be creative with what he has for talent, and not be married to a system that would get used regardless of the personnel available. The argument for getting rid of Graham is largely a financial one, and this year the finances aren't critical. Now, that could change if they get some huge talent on the hook in free agency, but for now it isn't a critical concern. I think it would be hard to do a total rebuild of the position without overpaying somewhat for talent in free agency. I appreciate the thoughtful response. I get that Gute really has to ask if Graham is worth the 3-4 million that he would save this year by cutting him. In that case, he absolutely is. I keep reading that Graham wasn't used well in MM's offense. I'm curious what situations that MM put him in that you didn't like, and how LF could use his skill set better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo27 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Don't agree with bringing Graham back bc I think he's finished but I'll fully support it, hope he proves me wrong and grabs 10 TDs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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