Adrenaline_Flux Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: If I were in y'all's shoes, I'd look into Jameis, Teddy, and Carr. JMO. yeah let's bring in the one QB who turns the ball over more than Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said: yeah let's bring in the one QB who turns the ball over more than Bortles I think he'd be less prone to hero ball with a better defense. Yes, he's a gunslinger, but I don't think that's really a bad thing. IMO, you'd be buying low on a guy who still has franchise QB ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, jrry32 said: I think he'd be less prone to hero ball with a better defense. Yes, he's a gunslinger, but I don't think that's really a bad thing. IMO, you'd be buying low on a guy who still has franchise QB ability. I mean, when he's not being completely awful, Bortles can do a lot of the same stuff as Jameis too. While also being a substantially more respectable human being. But that doesn't mean he's still got "franchise QB upside". That whole, "better defense + running game will fix a lot of problems" is the exact same mentality they applied to Bortles. And well...yeah. Mixed results at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tugboat said: I mean, when he's not being completely awful, Bortles can do a lot of the same stuff as Jameis too. While also being a substantially more respectable human being. But that doesn't mean he's still got "franchise QB upside". That whole, "better defense + running game will fix a lot of problems" is the exact same mentality they applied to Bortles. And well...yeah. Mixed results at best. You can say that about any QB. The sticking point between guys who can start and guys who can't is how often they're awful. Say what you will about Jameis, but he is awful a lot less than Bortles is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, jrry32 said: You can say that about any QB. The sticking point between guys who can start and guys who can't is how often they're awful. Say what you will about Jameis, but he is awful a lot less than Bortles is. hard disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said: hard disagree WRONG AGAIN BORTLES was the third overall pick in the first round in 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I don’t want Jameis if for no other reason than he’s a pretty worthless person and I’d rather not that be the face of the team I root for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLoo Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 18 hours ago, pwny said: I don’t want Jameis if for no other reason than he’s a pretty worthless person and I’d rather not that be the face of the team I root for. I'd walk in to the ocean if my QB made that eating W's speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Yeah. Even if you wanna argue that Jameis is a slight upgrade (he's not), Bortles is a lovely human being. That doesn't matter much in football, but it's at least a solid tiebreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Tugboat said: I mean, when he's not being completely awful, Bortles can do a lot of the same stuff as Jameis too. While also being a substantially more respectable human being. But that doesn't mean he's still got "franchise QB upside". That whole, "better defense + running game will fix a lot of problems" is the exact same mentality they applied to Bortles. And well...yeah. Mixed results at best. you also forgot the difference of who can run better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 9:16 PM, jrry32 said: I think he'd be less prone to hero ball with a better defense. Yes, he's a gunslinger, but I don't think that's really a bad thing. IMO, you'd be buying low on a guy who still has franchise QB ability. I'd be curious what buying low on him would actually be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jags Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Can someone do a stats comparison between Jameis and Bortles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jags said: Can someone do a stats comparison between Jameis and Bortles? oh honey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Jags said: Can someone do a stats comparison between Jameis and Bortles? I will. What time frame do you want for the comparison? My charting for Bortles dates back to when Olson was fired and I can expand or decrease that if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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