Caaddy24 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lil' Shorty said: I appreciate your stance on wanting a new QB and they way you go about that discussion but barring an implosion of Cincinatti proportions one of these last 2 weeks, Jameis will be the QB. With this draft class and a free year of Jameis, I’d be shocked if a first time HC just tossed Jameis aside for one of these major project QBs when QB is far from the problem on this team. I personally think it’s OL or DL/CB. Those get fixed and Jameis isn’t hit 4th most in the NFL and it makes this team a playoff contender. Well, if they do keep Jameis, they can still draft a QB and have him ready when Jameis falters, again. Whether that be in 2019, or 2020. I don't want Fitz as a backup anymore. Competition at the QB spot always is a good idea. It's hard not to let my bias opinion against Jameis play a part here lol. But, I truly believe he isn't capable of being able to rise to the occasion of beating top quality opponents, even if he is actually able to get the team into the playoffs, let alone a super bowl. And that's without any of his on field or off field antics play a factor like it always does. I don't believe guys like this with a long pattern of childish behavior can change that quickly. And he's definitely not worth that 20 mill that he's due to get in March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 How 'bout that. Lose a game, drop a draft spot. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Caaddy24 said: Well, if they do keep Jameis, they can still draft a QB and have him ready when Jameis falters, again. Whether that be in 2019, or 2020. I don't want Fitz as a backup anymore. Competition at the QB spot always is a good idea. It's hard not to let my bias opinion against Jameis play a part here lol. But, I truly believe he isn't capable of being able to rise to the occasion of beating top quality opponents, even if he is actually able to get the team into the playoffs, let alone a super bowl. And that's without any of his on field or off field antics play a factor like it always does. I don't believe guys like this with a long pattern of childish behavior can change that quickly. And he's definitely not worth that 20 mill that he's due to get in March. Yeah I mean I can’t confidently say Jameis is the savior of this franchise. He’s a question mark and I’m just speaking on field. I do think he’s far better than we’ve ever had and above average in the NFL. Strapping into a 5-6 year contract with him would worry me, but at the same time letting him go only to see him reach his potential with another team would be very disheartening. It’s rare to see above average QBs leave their team. Idk what we will do and what Jameis will look like next year with a new coaching staff, but I do believe he will be given every opportunity to stay as the QB of the Bucs and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingone Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: I don t know what to think about Little, who has all the physical ability to play a needed position. Is that enough to pass on better prospects at other positions of need. I really want another young DE to compliment JPP and Nassib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caaddy24 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: I would hate that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Im all for Little in r1. Has the tools to be an elite OT. Guy moves people and is a good athlete for the position. R2 go get DE or CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, indifference said: Im all for Little in r1. Has the tools to be an elite OT. Guy moves people and is a good athlete for the position. R2 go get DE or CB I’d also look at RB too. Ro jo sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 19 hours ago, REDandPEWTER said: I’d also look at RB too. Ro jo sucks yes yes he does our entire draft last year sucks first time in a long time thats happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: yes yes he does our entire draft last year sucks first time in a long time thats happened As good as vea is vs the run, it’s a 60+ % pass first league. Carlton Davis and Whitehead are the only ones that showed something decent. Davis is getting all this love but he isn’t a special talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: yes yes he does our entire draft last year sucks first time in a long time thats happened Vea just had his first game where he played a lot of snaps and had nine tackles. Almost all of which were three yards or less downfield. His play has drastically improved over the last few weeks. Whitehead has been pretty good. Davis has been up and down but has shown flashes of great play. Rojo has been a disappointment, yes. Same with Stewart. Cappa has barely played. Normally I'd question how good a player is when they're stuck behind a guy like Benenoch, but we've seen half a dozen or so questionable personnel decisions from this coaching staff. So I don't know if that's an indictment on Cappa or not. Watson is buried behind a deep receiving core. We should get a better look at him next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 11 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: Vea just had his first game where he played a lot of snaps and had nine tackles. Almost all of which were three yards or less downfield. His play has drastically improved over the last few weeks. Whitehead has been pretty good. Davis has been up and down but has shown flashes of great play. Rojo has been a disappointment, yes. Same with Stewart. Cappa has barely played. Normally I'd question how good a player is when they're stuck behind a guy like Benenoch, but we've seen half a dozen or so questionable personnel decisions from this coaching staff. So I don't know if that's an indictment on Cappa or not. Watson is buried behind a deep receiving core. We should get a better look at him next year. Not a complete wash but very suspect. Rojo doesn’t even look like he belongs. Vea has come along but for him to be worth the #12 pick , he better become a pass rusher inside. Carlton Davis gets beat a lot. He’s shown flashes here and there but not enough to say we have a future starting corner. Whitehead has honestly been the best and he’s been solid at best. Cappa and Watson are suspect. And mj Stewart lacks athleticism and can’t run with guys at this level. Not sure what licht was seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lil' Shorty Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: We’ll see where the prospects are ranked come April but if we are picking top 5 I believe that’s a bit high to draft Murphy. I’m cool with the premise of what they did with this draft tho and Ferguson is an intriguing prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sryan66611 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Out of the top three OTs who do you prefer ?? Jawaan Taylor, Jonah Williams, or Greg Little? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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