DaBoys Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Well, it is what it is boys. This thread is now more interesting than the 2019 draft prospects thread. We don't have our number one pick, and unless we are looking at having the exact same roster now as we do next year our best chance to improve it is going to be through $free agency$, damnit. I'd hate to think our only chance to improve is through our 2nd round pick, and we have money this year(which may be another reason why we felt comfortable trading our pick), so expect us to be major players in the over-pay shark tank. From another thread: "Well hopefully they sign DLaw. Maybe TE Tyler Eifert, or Jesse James. Grady Jarrett comes to mind. You know Rod loves him. What if they signed DLaw AND added another DE? I know we have RG and Taco, but the staff could admit defeat there and sign a vet like Brandon Graham, Cameron Wake or Trey Flowers. There are some big name pass rushers who's contracts are up and with a defensive line heavy draft some of them could hit the open market: Ziggy Ansah, Anthony Barr, Jadeveon Clowney. The Rams have Suh and Donte Fowler jr. to sign. One of them could hit the market. Then guys like Orakpo, Shane Ray, Dee Ford, Michael Johnson, or even Terrel Suggs. If Sean Lee is out they could sign Clay Matthews and use him to blitz idk Some possible cap casualties: TE Charles Clay DE Robert Quinn DT Marcell Dareus DE Justin Houston" "Not sure, I haven’t thought enough about contracts and the cap. But I’d prioritize re-signing D-Law, Cooper, Byron, Jaylon, and signing Earl. Let Dak play out his rookie contract, then see. Tender Zeke for his fifth season, and let him play that out, hopefully avoiding a holdout. Would be fine with a mid-level TE, but I think i’m More interested in drafting one. If you told me we could still afford a major move after that, then I’m in." -Nextyearfordaboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I suspect Jarrett will get the tag unfortunately. If not I’m all for that addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: I'd hate to think our only chance to improve is through our 2nd round pick Its not that bad when you think some of the best players on the team are 2nd rounders, but I too am excited about FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 That FA list is quite uninspiring. I think its a little early to give up on Taco and RG. DL is notoriously slow to develop if it isnt a top 5-10ish guy. Took DLaw multiple years. Same with Brandon Graham. Im sure I could think of a bunch more if I tried. The only Def play we need, outside of resigning our own (Law/Irving) is Earl Thomas. Offensively, OL depth and a TE. Maybe a slot if Beasely moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Dallas free agents -- Demarcus Lawrence Tavon Austin Cole Beasley David Irving Cameron Fleming Jamize Olawale LP Ladouceur Marcus Martin Caraun Reid Datone Jones Damien Wilson Rod Smith Darian Thompson Justin March-Lillard Geoff Swaim Daniel Ross 16 free agents and all of them are unrestricted. DLaw is going to cost $23-25m/yr. He is really the only must re-sign FA on the list. I can see a number of others moving on for the chance to start or more money elsewhere. Byron Jones should be a priority, but he may gamble on himself like DLaw for a bigger payday. Even if he doesn't, I doubt he signs for less than $12m/yr. Then you know Amani Cooper is guaranteed to a hefty payday too at around $14m/yr. Jones and Cooper are wildcards as Dallas doesn't have to get something done, but it's probably in their best interest to do so asap. That $60m in cap space could dwindle very quickly and that is just taking care of their own. I don't think a "splash" signing from outside the team is all that likely tbh, save for ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: 16 free agents and all of them are unrestricted. DLaw is going to cost $23-25m/yr. He is really the only must re-sign FA on the list. I can see a number of others moving on for the chance to start or more money elsewhere. Anything over $20m, I franchise ($21m) again and see if I can get my 1st rounder back. DLaw is great, but going off memory no team in NFL history has ever won a superbowl if their #2 and 3 players have cost 15% or greater of the salary cap. 13 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Byron Jones should be a priority, but he may gamble on himself like DLaw for a bigger payday. Even if he doesn't, I doubt he signs for less than $12m/yr. Then you know Amani Cooper is guaranteed to a hefty payday too at around $14m/yr. Jones and Cooper are wildcards as Dallas doesn't have to get something done, but it's probably in their best interest to do so asap. CB Franchise tag is $15m and technically Jones is our CB#2. $10-12m would be decent, with the franchise being an option. Cooper is already under contract for next year. 14 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: That $60m in cap space could dwindle very quickly and that is just taking care of their own. I don't think a "splash" signing from outside the team is all that likely tbh, save for ET. $60M can buy a lot of players. I forget which player, but I think it was K Mack that has an average annual salary of $25m ish and his cap hit this year is like $12m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, WizardHawk said: Dallas free agents -- Demarcus Lawrence Tavon Austin Cole Beasley David Irving Cameron Fleming Jamize Olawale LP Ladouceur Marcus Martin Caraun Reid Datone Jones Damien Wilson Rod Smith Darian Thompson Justin March-Lillard Geoff Swaim Daniel Ross 16 free agents and all of them are unrestricted. DLaw is going to cost $23-25m/yr. He is really the only must re-sign FA on the list. I can see a number of others moving on for the chance to start or more money elsewhere. Byron Jones should be a priority, but he may gamble on himself like DLaw for a bigger payday. Even if he doesn't, I doubt he signs for less than $12m/yr. Then you know Amani Cooper is guaranteed to a hefty payday too at around $14m/yr. Jones and Cooper are wildcards as Dallas doesn't have to get something done, but it's probably in their best interest to do so asap. That $60m in cap space could dwindle very quickly and that is just taking care of their own. I don't think a "splash" signing from outside the team is all that likely tbh, save for ET. And there you have the problem with trading your first rounder. You are basically drafting Amari Cooper and signing him in Free agency the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D82 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I say we re-sign Lawrence to a "big-money" deal. Irving likely will be brought back on a cheap contract due to his off-the-field issues. From the list on the right, I think we bring back the Canadian, Fleming and Datone Jones. Cooper isn't a FA until 2020, so that gives us some time. I would think they'd look to lock up Byron before his value increases further. We also have two years on Dak/Zeke. I imagine heading into FA, Thomas is going to be our main target. Could see a couple other depth signings per our M.O. but given our own guys we're going to be looking at having to extend, I don't see us making any big splashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, DaBoys said: And there you have the problem with trading your first rounder. You are basically drafting Amari Cooper and signing him in Free agency the same year. Without Cooper we would have been drafting top 10 though right? Those guys make in the ~$6-10m/yr range. So its only like a ~$3-5m difference. Zeke came into the league as a top 3 paid RB at $8m a year, iirc, and that was 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, D82 said: I say we re-sign Lawrence to a "big-money" deal How big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: How big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Anything over $20m, I franchise ($21m) again and see if I can get my 1st rounder back. DLaw is great, but going off memory no team in NFL history has ever won a superbowl if their #2 and 3 players have cost 15% or greater of the salary cap. - idk, makes me feel like we're the Raiders. Getting rid of good players puts us further away from the goal. I don't like it. Especially with they have the cap space. Obviously the return would be good, but being without a good pass rusher isn't the way to go. Haven't seen enough from RG, Taco, and Armstrong to make me feel comfortable letting him walk. CB Franchise tag is $15m and technically Jones is our CB#2. $10-12m would be decent, with the franchise being an option. Cooper is already under contract for next year. - Jones has another year on contract as well, so Dallas doesn't have to do another with him either. But, like Cooper, I think it would probably be in their best interest to try and get something done before hand if at all possible. At least one of them anyway...which probably makes it Cooper given the trade. $60M can buy a lot of players. I forget which player, but I think it was K Mack that has an average annual salary of $25m ish and his cap hit this year is like $12m. - Dallas has a ton of future space, $125m in '21 and $150m in '22 iirc, so definitely have a bunch of flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Matts4313 said: That FA list is quite uninspiring. This, more than anything, is the main reason I'd opt to sign our own players first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: This, more than anything, is the main reason I'd opt to sign our own players first. That FA list doesnt include all the players being cut though. Like OV for the Giants. Who could cost 50% of DLaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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