GmenSeattle Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: He's pitched 160 innings just once. Lots of injury history for a 30 year old guy too. So the Yankees have two options- let it ride with him and get what they can, or manage him like a 4-5 starter to get the most out of his innings. Of all the starting pitchers who could be available via trade, Paxton was at the bottom of my list. Nothing with his shoulder/elbow. Guy is legit and we basically traded him for an unproven prospect. Big win for the Yankees IMO. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/get-ready-for-a-james-paxton-blockbuster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Quote Over his big-league career, he’s dealt with a lat strain, shoulder inflammation, a strained finger tendon, a torn fingernail, a bruised bicep, forearm tightness and the pectoral strain. Some are fluky, others are frustrating. It’s why he continues to be open to new ways to forego such problems, even if it means no more grilled-cheese sandwiches. https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/james-paxton-searches-for-ways-to-remain-healthy-for-the-mariners-in-2018/ This was his injury history before this year. He also went on the DL for a substantial amount of time this year with back problems. Some guys just get hurt. It's genetics, and a lot of those muscle/tendon problems are probably that. There are some weird ones, like the fingernail. However, we are talking about asset management here. The Yankees just traded a top 25 MLB prospect, who would be the centerpiece of any deal for a starting pitcher this year, along with two other prospects, for a 30 year old pitcher who has just two years of team control left, and who has pitched a grand total of 582.1 major league innings since his cup of coffee in 2013. In my opinion, this was very poor asset management for the Yankees, and I would've rather used Sheffield for another starting pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: This was his injury history before this year. He also went on the DL for a substantial amount of time this year with back problems. Some guys just get hurt. It's genetics, and a lot of those muscle/tendon problems are probably that. There are some weird ones, like the fingernail. However, we are talking about asset management here. The Yankees just traded a top 25 MLB prospect, who would be the centerpiece of any deal for a starting pitcher this year, along with two other prospects, for a 30 year old pitcher who has just two years of team control left, and who has pitched a grand total of 582.1 major league innings since his cup of coffee in 2013. In my opinion, this was very poor asset management for the Yankees, and I would've rather used Sheffield for another starting pitcher. what other starting pitcher? any of the indians guys likely bring back signifcantly larger returns, imo yanks did really well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Sad to see Paxton go, but the writing was on the wall. Secondary assets seem weak, but I guess they took the best center piece they could get. With Paxton's injury questions, and potentially some really good arms on the market, I guess we can't really expect a ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Eagles27 said: Sad to see Paxton go, but the writing was on the wall. Secondary assets seem weak, but I guess they took the best center piece they could get. With Paxton's injury questions, and potentially some really good arms on the market, I guess we can't really expect a ransom. Same, I'm gonna miss Big Maple a lot. Frustrating player since he's always injured, but a great pitcher when healthy. Can't help but love the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, naptownskinsfan said: This was his injury history before this year. He also went on the DL for a substantial amount of time this year with back problems. Some guys just get hurt. It's genetics, and a lot of those muscle/tendon problems are probably that. There are some weird ones, like the fingernail. However, we are talking about asset management here. The Yankees just traded a top 25 MLB prospect, who would be the centerpiece of any deal for a starting pitcher this year, along with two other prospects, for a 30 year old pitcher who has just two years of team control left, and who has pitched a grand total of 582.1 major league innings since his cup of coffee in 2013. In my opinion, this was very poor asset management for the Yankees, and I would've rather used Sheffield for another starting pitcher. What other pitcher(s) are you thinking of? Even with the injuries he's been between 3.5-4.5 WAR these last 3 years. The only better would be non injury concern aces. Those would cost significantly more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, naptownskinsfan said: This was his injury history before this year. He also went on the DL for a substantial amount of time this year with back problems. Some guys just get hurt. It's genetics, and a lot of those muscle/tendon problems are probably that. There are some weird ones, like the fingernail. However, we are talking about asset management here. The Yankees just traded a top 25 MLB prospect, who would be the centerpiece of any deal for a starting pitcher this year, along with two other prospects, for a 30 year old pitcher who has just two years of team control left, and who has pitched a grand total of 582.1 major league innings since his cup of coffee in 2013. In my opinion, this was very poor asset management for the Yankees, and I would've rather used Sheffield for another starting pitcher. Sheffield is a very good but not elite pitching prospect. He is not gonna get anyone better than Paxton by himself. Cash is not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammerHammer21 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Get Corbin and Happ and go to a 6 man rotation with 4 lefties imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I think this seems...reasonable at a high level. Paxton is really talented, but a huge injury concern. Sheffield is a really good prospect, but risky and he's the only important piece coming back. Agree Hopefully it works out on both sides, but could easily be a no win deal too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 16 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I think this seems...reasonable at a high level. Paxton is really talented, but a huge injury concern. Sheffield is a really good prospect, but risky and he's the only important piece coming back. I like the deal a little more for the Yankees, but that's probably because I have never been enamored with Sheffield. Still, can't blame the M's for dealing Paxton before he sprains his ankle putting on his shoes or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 The Seattle Mariners Making other teams better since 1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 BTW, if the season started today, Marco Gonzalez would be Seattles #1 starter. In other news, 2019 tickets to the new T-Mobile pink disgrace are going to be practically free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: I like the deal a little more for the Yankees, but that's probably because I have never been enamored with Sheffield. Still, can't blame the M's for dealing Paxton before he sprains his ankle putting on his shoes or something. I don't particularly love Sheffield either, but isn't that what makes it a fair deal? Both of the headliners have one significant flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I don't particularly love Sheffield either, but isn't that what makes it a fair deal? Both of the headliners have one significant flaw. Hasn't Sheffield had some injury stuff too, in addition to his iffy command? Or am I making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, hrubes20 said: Hasn't Sheffield had some injury stuff too, in addition to his iffy command? Or am I making that up? He had an oblique injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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