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Ok so why does the Rams defense suck?


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A lot of our defensive line just pins their ears back and go for the rush. And our linebackers aren't good enough to cover for a dline that doesn't fill their gaps.

The pass is a different story. Talib is our "island" guy if there is even such a thing in today's NFL. Marcus Peters is all about jumping routes and playing instincts not man. So missing Talib, Peters playing out of style and with the regression of our safties our secondary just is plain and simple bad without Talib. 

So it all boils down to our defense is great for the splash plays, turnovers, pressure, sacks. Bad at teams marching up and down the field. Talib will help a little but I wouldn't expect a top 10 defense or anything. 

Our defense won that KC game. If they win us games here and there, our offense will do the rest.

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1 hour ago, Superman(DH23) said:

The run defense is what it is bc of Suh.  He doesnt care about gap integrity and never has, hes always looking to penetrate.  In Detroit Nick Fairley masked a lot of that by being the designated run defender.  But in LA nobody is telling Aaron Donald to not go pass first. When you have 2 interior defenders rushing the passer that opens up the a & b gap

The scheme allows Suh and Donald to penetrate at will. 

1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said:

Are the Rams just letting Donald and co. focus on penetration while forgoing gap responsibility? What's the deal there?

They're not forgoing gap responsibility, but they are allowed to penetrate at will.

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1 hour ago, Elky said:

1. Injuries. Losing Aqib Talib early in the season opened a big gap in the secondary. Getting him back on the field will fix their secondary woes.

2. Disappointing players. Marcus Peters has always been known for ballhawking, not shutting down WRs. Now that he's not generating a ton of interceptions, his weaknesses are being exposed.

3. Crap linebackers. LAR has a great line, but it goes downhill from there if opposing team manage to get past the first level.

What happened to Littleton? He was playing really well early in the season, but you really haven’t heard much from him since then. Has he been hurt or something?

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15 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

The scheme allows Suh and Donald to penetrate at will. 

They're not forgoing gap responsibility, but they are allowed to penetrate at will.

That's the problem Jrry, suh always wants to penetrate.  Sometimes you have read the guards shoulder and know whether THEY want you to penetrate and leave your gap.  

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9 minutes ago, eagles18 said:

Aaron Donald has never been a great run stopper.. hes a great pass rusher...

It's interesting because he'll make a good amount of plays in the run game (TFLs), but he'll also leave big gaps open that you can run behind.  Personally, I don't see the issue.  I'd rather have him wreaking the backfield every chance he gets, and causing negative plays/turnovers.  Versus worrying about gap integrity...

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16 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said:

What happened to Littleton? He was playing really well early in the season, but you really haven’t heard much from him since then. Has he been hurt or something?

Great special teams player, adequate in coverage but not a run stuffer to pick up the backs behind that DLine. He'd likely be better in the Barron position of the defense with a run defender next to him.

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6 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said:

That's the problem Jrry, suh always wants to penetrate.  Sometimes you have read the guards shoulder and know whether THEY want you to penetrate and leave your gap.  

Don’t we all

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14 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said:

That's the problem Jrry, suh always wants to penetrate.  Sometimes you have read the guards shoulder and know whether THEY want you to penetrate and leave your gap.  

His job in the scheme is to attack his gap and get into the backfield. Wade doesn't want them playing cautiously. For better or worse, it's all about attacking.

21 minutes ago, eagles18 said:

Aaron Donald has never been a great run stopper.. hes a great pass rusher...

Aaron Donald is a pretty damn good run stopper. You can certainly beat him at times due to his quickness if the LBs behind him aren't good at filling gaps, but he's very disruptive.

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Yeah they have certainly been worse than I would have expected after spending all that money. I've read things are expected to change when Talib comes back, but I don't know that adding a 32 year old CB coming off injury is going to be as game changing as some seem to think.

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58 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

His job in the scheme is to attack his gap and get into the backfield. Wade doesn't want them playing cautiously. For better or worse, it's all about attacking.

Aaron Donald is a pretty damn good run stopper. You can certainly beat him at times due to his quickness if the LBs behind him aren't good at filling gaps, but he's very disruptive.

Wouldn't that mean the fundamental issue stems from insufficient linebacker play? Has Mark Barron been flopping?

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2 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

Wouldn't that mean the fundamental issue stems from insufficient linebacker play? Has Mark Barron been flopping?

Unfortunately, it's a combination of things. One of those things is disappointing LB play. Another is bad tackling. A third is bad play in the secondary (even against the run). The DL isn't free from their faults either, though. Michael Brockers hasn't played to his usual standard this year.

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