Arthur Penske Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Is this accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Is this accurate? If that's true he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: Is this accurate? Rob Demovsky never utters an independent thought. When he wrote in his ESPN article yesterday that Perry's season and "possibly his career with the Green Bay Packers, is over" he undoubtedly got that information from someone inside 1265. Looking at Perry's "production" as a Packer, it is not hard to understand why the Packers want to move on. Year Games Sacks 2012 6 2 2013 11 4 2014 15 3 2015 14 3.5 2016 14 11 2017 12 7 2018 9 1.5 Total/Average 81 (27.7%) 32 (4.6) Other than the 2016 outlier season, Perry has consistently been mediocre to bad when it comes to rushing the passer. He has also, to put it mildly, been a bit injury prone. (To be fair to Nick he has suffered a series of serious injuries and no one has ever accused him of malingering. It is also true he made it perfectly clear before he was drafted he did not think he was an OLBer and had no desire to play the position. It was the man who drafted him who decided otherwise). There is no way a 29 year-old, oft-injured Nick Perry is worth a fraction of his $14.2M cap hit in 2019. Gute, you are in no way responsible for Perry's albatross of a contract. Nonetheless, you've got to exercise the post June 1 cut option and send Nick packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Can we designate him as a June 1 cut? I know you can't use that money in the upcoming FA class, but 14m for Perry is atrocious. Had to do it though. I don't fault Ted for it, although he and Russ Ball could've done way better with that contract if they bargained a little harder. That depends. I'm not really sure if NFL has "cap holds" for open roster spots like the NBA. If they don't have these cap holds, it could benefit GB to designate him a post-June cut. In most years, GB would have to save cap space for their rookies (let's say $7m) and their usual safety margin (they seem to keep about $7m unspent on average each year). So if they had, for instance, $30m in cap space in March, they could only actually spend $16m of it on FA's. But if they knew $11.1m more cap space will come free in June, they could safely spend $27.1m of the $30m in free agency in March and know they'll still have room to sign the rookies and have a reserve fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: So if you go to work tomorrow and get hit by a truck one of your coworkers and break your leg at no fault of your own, you’re “stealing” money from your company while recouperating? nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: So if you go to work tomorrow and get hit by a truck one of your coworkers and break your leg at no fault of your own, you’re “stealing” money from your company while recouperating? Perry has been invisible since week #1 so he has been 'stealing' money from his employer for lack of production. Unfortunately we are stuck with him or his contract because I can't see another team willing to take him off our hands unless they put him back on the DL. This is yet another square peg we tried to ram into a square hole back in the day because of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Siman08/OH said: Cobb. But when Cobb is healthy at least he produces. Unfortunately for him and us he hasn't been healthy much this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Pugger said: Perry has been invisible since week #1 so he has been 'stealing' money from his employer for lack of production. Unfortunately we are stuck with him or his contract because I can't see another team willing to take him off our hands unless they put him back on the DL. This is yet another square peg we tried to ram into a square hole back in the day because of need. Do you think drafting Perry to play 3-4 OLB when he announced he was a 4-3 DE before the draft was more of a square peg into a ROUND hole scenario than putting a safety like Randall at cornerback was? Between Perry, Randall, Hyde, Brad Jones, Nate Palmer, Datone Jones, Rollins, B.J. Raji and others I'm sure I'm forgetting the number of defensive players who seemed to play out of position in Green Bay between 2011 and 2017 is remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: Do you think drafting Perry to play 3-4 OLB when he announced he was a 4-3 DE before the draft was more of a square peg into a ROUND hole scenario than putting a safety like Randall at cornerback was? Between Perry, Randall, Hyde, Brad Jones, Nate Palmer, Datone Jones, Rollins, B.J. Raji and others I'm sure I'm forgetting the number of defensive players who seemed to play out of position in Green Bay between 2011 and 2017 is remarkable. Montgomery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: Do you think drafting Perry to play 3-4 OLB when he announced he was a 4-3 DE before the draft was more of a square peg into a ROUND hole scenario than putting a safety like Randall at cornerback was? Between Perry, Randall, Hyde, Brad Jones, Nate Palmer, Datone Jones, Rollins, B.J. Raji and others I'm sure I'm forgetting the number of defensive players who seemed to play out of position in Green Bay between 2011 and 2017 is remarkable. How were Brad Jones, Raji, and Nate Palmer out of position? You had two failed OLBs playing inside, and a DT playing DT. Datone and Rollins were more Ted's fault than either Mike or Dom's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: How were Brad Jones, Raji, and Nate Palmer out of position? You had two failed OLBs playing inside, and a DT playing DT. Datone and Rollins were more Ted's fault than either Mike or Dom's. I agree Jones and Palmer were two failed OLBs but was it reasonable to expect them to then succeed by moving them to ILB where they likewise failed? Certainly players sometimes do well by switching positions but the sheer number of Packer defensive players who seemed to play out of position is a real head scratcher. Was it Dom, the GM, both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 After watching GB pay the very marginal Cobb this season because WR was so thin, I expect GB will continue paying the very marginal Perry at least one more season. I think the next time GB takes a 11M cap hit by releasing a player early will be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: After watching GB pay the very marginal Cobb this season because WR was so thin, I expect GB will continue paying the very marginal Perry at least one more season. I think the next time GB takes a 11M cap hit by releasing a player early will be the first time. Well we did cut Jordy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, TheOnlyThing said: I agree Jones and Palmer were two failed OLBs but was it reasonable to expect them to then succeed by moving them to ILB where they likewise failed? Certainly players sometimes do well by switching positions but the sheer number of Packer defensive players who seemed to play out of position is a real head scratcher. Was it Dom, the GM, both? I think some was Ted, and some was Dom. Datone Jones did nothing for any of the teams he has been on. That cannot be Dom's fault. The biggest fault for Brad Jones was paying him too much after he had impressive stats in 2012. Again, probably not Dom's fault. But you see Hayward, Hyde, and Randall play well after leaving the Packers, it has to reflect on Dom. This is an oversimplification, obviously. But there are two groups there as well. Randall, Hyde and maybe Rollins, were CBs that probably should have been playing S. Brad Jones, Datone Jones, Mike Neal, and Nate Palmer were guys that were not good at their position and the coaches were left to figure out how to get use out of what they were given. I would even say Brad Jones and Mike Neal were better at their job when their position was changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddfather Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I'm ready to move on. His resigning was in desperation, and he doesn't produce. Let him go. Let Matthews take a pay cut and move inside or he can be replaced too.you have to think a lot will be thrown at the safeties and backers this off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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