Mr. Fussnputz Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brit Pack said: I'm not disagreeing with you but ain't that stuff your asking a search firm to at the first instance pretty damm obvious, especially if your job is all about evaluation. The pool of potential candidates even if you include college ranks is so freaking narrow. I mean most of us on here are stating who those candidates should be. It's not like they'll identify some obsecure OL coach who is a perfect fit. If anything I thought a search firm would be used to validate a list and do some more digging around. The company can approach people discretely. It's their job to know who is ready for a promotion and who is not. (For example, is Zack Taylor ready? Based on conversations with many people, they should know this.) Who is interested in being a HC in GB and who isn't. (For example, is Vic Fangio interested in Green Bay? Pat Fitzgerald?) They are having continuous conversations year 'round with GMs, coaches, etc. to know who is ready and a good fit for any given team. Saves Gute a lot of time. I'd rather have Gute working on player evaluation. Let the company create the pool and then put Gute to work sorting the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I think folks are overthinking this. Why would they suddenly NOT use a firm? (1) They already have a short list (2) They already know the guys on the short list VERY well. or (3) They already have THE guy An announcement of this nature tells me: "Welcome to GB Mr. Fitzgerald! We need our sleuths to track down private flights in flightaware to and from GB since MM was fired 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: I think folks are overthinking this. Why would they suddenly NOT use a firm? (1) They already have a short list (2) They already know the guys on the short list VERY well. or (3) They already have THE guy An announcement of this nature tells me: "Welcome to GB Mr. Fitzgerald! We need our sleuths to track down private flights in flightaware to and from GB since MM was fired 😎 I'm really warming up to this. I never thought about him as a pro coach before these threads but damn if it doesn't make sense imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Private flights? Randy Moss for HC confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 7:39 PM, Arthur Penske said: If you go the defensive HC route, is Fangio a guy being overlooked? Perhaps a defensive HC isn’t a high possibility but difficult to find a better DC resume. Also steal the guy from Chicago responsible for much of their success this season. Rumor was GB was high on him this offseason before Pettine but hard to know if that was just MM. I’m starting to like this idea. Why get an offensive guru when AR will override him anyway? Our issues have been politics on O and bad D the last few years. A strong D coach with a pushover OC really might be best. This coach is a 3-6 year commitment with a 35 year old AR so a Fangio coach actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Norm said: I'm really warming up to this. I never thought about him as a pro coach before these threads but damn if it doesn't make sense imo I wonder what kind of staff he would put together. Mick McCall has been his OC for 11 years. Interesting that he never parlayed that into a HC gig himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Politics on O? The problem is we don't have enough halfway decent WRs to field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, spilltray said: Politics on O? The problem is we don't have enough halfway decent WRs to field. Or offensive linemen or entire defense to stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Fitz is probably my guy, but he'll have to have a game plan for the offense. Fitz is a culture hire .. he's a character guy with great enthusiasm and passion that would help get the Packers program back on track. I have little doubt he would be able to attract bright minds to come work with him. I'd be excited about the future if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQ1 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 From the Chicago Tribune - I found this laundry list article of pros and cons about Pat Fitzgerald: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-pat-fitzgerald-packers-northwestern-20181212-story.html There’s LOTS of fuel for lively discussion, and it seems fairly objective, especially since it’s posted out of Chicago the week of the Packers vs the Bears! ( - : # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Great read. Thank you for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Mark Chmura is in the news saying Aaron Rodgers got Mike McCarthy fired saying that no way Aaron Rodgers walks away from this looking good and that it was a disgusting act by him. You can read the article here. However, I myself will never take the opinion of a man that went to a high school post-prom party and sat drunk in a hot tub with the females drinking and was later accused of sexually assaulting one of the teenagers in the bathroom. Granted he was acquited, he's a grown man of celebrity status that should have NEVER been in that situation and I find it extremely hard to believe that at least part of what was said in that trial isn't at least true. They say he's a Packers legend in the article, he ain't my legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The smoke on Rodgers getting McCarthy fired is a full-fledged forest fire at this point. I don't think anybody can really deny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: The smoke on Rodgers getting McCarthy fired is a full-fledged forest fire at this point. I don't think anybody can really deny that. Oh trust me, I agree that where there is smoke there is fire. I am in no doubts that Aaron Rodgers contributed to the release of Mike McCarthy, I suggested as much well before these articles released and way early into the season in a Whatsapp group with @persiandud I'm merely stating that I don't give af to hear it from Mark Chmura of all people and that his opinions whether accurate or not mean very little to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: The smoke on Rodgers getting McCarthy fired is a full-fledged forest fire at this point. I don't think anybody can really deny that. Sure, Rodgers had a hand in it, but Murphy and Gute also couldn't wait to get Mac out of there. As Murphy said .. Mac's time had run its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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