VigilantZombie Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, jebrick said: You are looking at a name. What has he shown since being drafted? Pros: he is big. Cons: He is slow. His 40 time is comparable to Vance McDonald ( .004 difference) Has bad hands runs poor routes - could have been fixed coming out of college but has not in 3 years. Lazy - see above So a Athletic TE that does not block and apparently does not care about his craft. McDonald had better 3 cone short and shuttle than Benjamin. So what is to gain? KC lost Watson for the year so they can take a chance. Yeah i suggested this move but in retrospect, he isnt a good risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: Yeah i suggested this move but in retrospect, he isnt a good risk. I am at the point where I don't think risks are worth it. Between the draft and UFA, a team should be assembles with players that are professionals in every aspect, with minimal risk. The risk vs reward can be tempting at times, but I don't think it's necessary if the scouting and FO does a decent job in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 15 hours ago, jebrick said: He is slow. His 40 time is comparable to Vance McDonald ( .004 difference) Yep...and there is only room for one McDonald in Kelvin Benjamin's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 7:59 AM, jebrick said: You are looking at a name. What has he shown since being drafted? Pros: he is big. Cons: He is slow. His 40 time is comparable to Vance McDonald ( .004 difference) Has bad hands runs poor routes - could have been fixed coming out of college but has not in 3 years. Lazy - see above So a Athletic TE that does not block and apparently does not care about his craft. McDonald had better 3 cone short and shuttle than Benjamin. So what is to gain? KC lost Watson for the year so they can take a chance. so you dont have an answer to back your claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 My claim that he sucks? I think that is fairly obvious. I have enumerated why he is like a TE that does not block. I have even given proof that he is less athletic than current Steeler Vance McDonald. Do you have any proof as to why he is better than any current Steeler WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, jebrick said: My claim that he sucks? I think that is fairly obvious. I have enumerated why he is like a TE that does not block. I have even given proof that he is less athletic than current Steeler Vance McDonald. Do you have any proof as to why he is better than any current Steeler WR? you said he was a cancer in the locker room, i said prove it. you couldnt. i showed you stats for his first couple years when he had a decent qb, they were good. proof, sure here it is. hes got more yards receiving that anyone not named brown or schuster and thats with no qb. so hes better than every other wr on this team so if benjamin sucks at wr, how do you feel about all the rest of ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, muncher said: you said he was a cancer in the locker room, i said prove it. you couldnt. i showed you stats for his first couple years when he had a decent qb, they were good. proof, sure here it is. hes got more yards receiving that anyone not named brown or schuster and thats with no qb. so hes better than every other wr on this team so if benjamin sucks at wr, how do you feel about all the rest of ours? Did you read his statements on Cam? Guys that say things like that aren’t peaches in the locker room. He got more yards as the number 1, other than our number 1 and number 2? Wow. I should be impressed? I feel better about Switz and Washington (and I hate Washington). He’s a listed 245, most reports put him about 20 pounds over that. All his QBs have their worse ratings and completion percentages to him. He doesnt fight for 50/50 balls. Regularly gets covered by sub-5’10” DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Wait - this was serious? We have two 1000 yard receivers on the team. Our tight end position has combined for 900 yards. Our running back position has thrown in another 500. We are, or at least were, the leagues best redzone team. Our receivers alone have more recieving touchdowns than 11 NFL teams. Our 3rd receiver is largely our 5th option during the play.... Why do we want an underachieving, lazy, overweight, glorified tackle, who has gotten himself jettisoned from 2 teams that desperately need wide receiver help to be our third receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: Wait - this was serious? We have two 1000 yard receivers on the team. Our tight end position has combined for 900 yards. Our running back position has thrown in another 500. We are, or at least were, the leagues best redzone team. Our receivers alone have more recieving touchdowns than 11 NFL teams. Our 3rd receiver is largely our 5th option during the play.... Why do we want an underachieving, lazy, overweight, glorified tackle, who has gotten himself jettisoned from 2 teams that desperately need wide receiver help to be our third receiver? something something red zone something something empire something something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 hours ago, muncher said: you said he was a cancer in the locker room, i said prove it. you couldnt. i showed you stats for his first couple years when he had a decent qb, they were good. proof, sure here it is. hes got more yards receiving that anyone not named brown or schuster and thats with no qb. so hes better than every other wr on this team so if benjamin sucks at wr, how do you feel about all the rest of ours? So where did I say he was a cancer in the locker room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also when i suggested signing KB, it was as a #4, not as a #3. Not saying it makes it better, just clarifying my original stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 14 hours ago, jebrick said: So where did I say he was a cancer in the locker room? sorry, wrong poster...my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 from this thread , we have learned that benjamin is not wanted here. thread is dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snack Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Any wr that refuses to warm up with his rookie qb is a cancer. Thats not me making something up, that is on camera and right before his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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