seminoles1 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Not bad. Makes sense for both sides. Now Cleveland just needs Love to get healthy and play good ball for only 1 month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 does this give the bucks cap space they can use or is it to get below the tax line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioG Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 This trade is dumb for us. We take two bad contracts for a heavily protected 1st rounder starting 2021. I wouldve waited around til the trade deadline. Maybe some team realizes its time to dump salary for a big time FA next off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 11sanchez11 said: does this give the bucks cap space they can use or is it to get below the tax line? Assuming we waive Hill before July, Middleton opts out and we don't bring back any of our other non-guaranteed deals, we only have $55 Million committed with another $7.5 Million in dead cap. So, if we renounce everyone, we have a ton of space. Only problem is...if we renounced everyone, we'd have Giannis and trash. So this was to clear room to probably pay everyone (Bledsoe, Brogdon, Lopez and Middleton) and keep the core group together. Or... We could go after the pipe dream of KD and Giannis. or... Kawhi and Giannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie_Hancock Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 9:13 PM, beekay414 said: Assuming we waive Hill before July, Middleton opts out and we don't bring back any of our other non-guaranteed deals, we only have $55 Million committed with another $7.5 Million in dead cap. So, if we renounce everyone, we have a ton of space. Only problem is...if we renounced everyone, we'd have Giannis and trash. So this was to clear room to probably pay everyone (Bledsoe, Brogdon, Lopez and Middleton) and keep the core group together. Or... We could go after the pipe dream of KD and Giannis. or... Kawhi and Giannis. Wood, Giannis, KD, Pat, Brogdon as the starting 5 and DJ the 6th man Make it happen TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 9:13 PM, beekay414 said: Assuming we waive Hill before July, Middleton opts out and we don't bring back any of our other non-guaranteed deals, we only have $55 Million committed with another $7.5 Million in dead cap. So, if we renounce everyone, we have a ton of space. Only problem is...if we renounced everyone, we'd have Giannis and trash. So this was to clear room to probably pay everyone (Bledsoe, Brogdon, Lopez and Middleton) and keep the core group together. Or... We could go after the pipe dream of KD and Giannis. or... Kawhi and Giannis. so do you think Middleton is going to hit the open market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie_Hancock Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, champ11 said: so do you think Middleton is going to hit the open market? I think midds stays, Bledsoe gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Herbie_Hancock said: I think midds stays, Bledsoe gone word. yeah Middleton is a guy I would like the Nuggets to pursue if he becomes available but I feel like it makes sense from the outside for him to stay in Milwaukee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, champ11 said: so do you think Middleton is going to hit the open market? I think he'll take multiple offers, yes. He's going to take whatever the highest bidder gives. I'm willing to bet he'll be a Laker unless we go 5 and full max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 With Sterling Brown developing, I'd almost rather disperse the Middleton money to Bledsoe, Brogdon and Lopez and try to trade Midds for a young asset. Don't get me wrong, if we bring Midds back, I wont be upset at all. He'll get that Kyrie money and get paid for what he offers in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 For the purpose of this deal, I think this is a good breakdown of what our plan is. We're not going KD chasing or anything like that. This is a post from slos over on RealGM that breaks down the process. Of course, it all hinges on whether or not Middleton would take 5/125. Quote If that Cleveland trade was made just to keep the team together and avoid the tax, it seems that there are around 53,5 mil available to resign Middleton, Bledsoe and Brogdon. That's assuming you cut only Hill and Smith, sign your 1st, keep Lopez with the full MLE and sign a backup PG with the full BAE. 1. Giannis........ 25,82. Middleton..... 253. Bledsoe....... 164. Brogdon....... 12,55. Snell........... 11,46. Lopez.......... 9,17. Ilyasova....... 7 8. Maker.......... 3,79. BAE............ 3,610. Wilson........ 311. DDV........... 2,912. 2019 1st..... 2,313. Pat........... 1,714. Brown....... 1,615. Wood........ 1,6- dead money... 4,8-total............. 132It seems doable and promising, since you can have the same team back with an understood Bud's system and two extra players (the pick and the BAE) to bring even more depth in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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