mse326 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Top QB's 1. Tom Brady We are now doing the voting for #2. Remember to post reasons too so we have good discussion. But you also must vote in the poll as that is all that will be counted. Also if you think there is someone that needs to be added to the poll for the next vote make sure to post it in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I prefer ranking in tiers rather than lists(in which I have Brady, Manning, Montana all on the same tier), but just out of personal preference for his superbowl performances, I'll give Joe #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Manning winning superbowls with two different franchises is an amazing feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jontat83 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The problem I have with this is I think Best and Great are very different ways of judging a player. The best QB of all time in terms of skillset and ability and the eyeball test for me is Rodgers. But the greatest in terms of achievements is clearly Brady or Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm going to go Manning. Physical skills were there in droves, but his mental acumen was unmatched. The only knock on him was the he ONLY won two Super Bowls, and his performance in both games was lackluster at best. The numbers he put up with two different teams is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Joe Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said: I'm going to go Manning. Physical skills were there in droves, but his mental acumen was unmatched. The only knock on him was the he ONLY won two Super Bowls, and his performance in both games was lackluster at best. The numbers he put up with two different teams is astonishing. I think people really underrate his game against the Bears. The Bears were probably the best in the league on defense especially against the pass and the conditions in that game were horrible. And with the Bears offense being anemic there was no need to really push it too far. I thought he played a really good game then given the circumstances. And the Super Bowl loss against the Saints is another debatable one on how well he played. Basically the only negative was that killer pick 6. He was really good besides that. So it comes down to how you view that one play. If you put it on Manning then it is a big deal. But there are many, including hall of fame QBs, that say it was Reggie Wayne's route that was the cause. He rounded it and let the DB in front of him on a timing route where the QB throws to a spot. If you view it that way then there is no reason to knock Manning for how he played. The two SBs were the Broncos were definitely horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 How many QBs have tried the position for at least a few games? 700? Maybe 100 are worth ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's between Montana and Manning. I'll go Montana even though I think it's really difficult to evaluate between the two becausebtheur strengths are so different. But Montana's biggest playoff knock is going one and done 3 times in a row where I think Manning did it like 9 times. So if you are asking me who I want in a game it's Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's literally impossible to rank Manning and Montana against each other due to the different eras. Who knows if Montana would have done as well as P. Manning did with the Colts and who knows how well P. Manning would have done if he played for the 49ers in the 80s and early 90s. They're both incredible players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM18 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Gotta go with Peyton. As stated before, supreme mental acumen, impressive stats - 55 TD's in one regular season is staggering. And the only starting QB to win 2 Superbowl's with different franchises. He is a unique, awesome talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, PFM18 said: Gotta go with Peyton. As stated before, supreme mental acumen, impressive stats - 55 TD's in one regular season is staggering. And the only starting QB to win 2 Superbowl's with different franchises. He is a unique, awesome talent. Are you his mum? Kidding. Manning is 3rd for me, behind Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Jerry said: It's literally impossible to rank Manning and Montana against each other due to the different eras. Who knows if Montana would have done as well as P. Manning did with the Colts and who knows how well P. Manning would have done if he played for the 49ers in the 80s and early 90s. They're both incredible players. I think Montana would have done better. Manning strength was in his excellent execution and timing. When it worked it was unbeatable. However every time he played a more physical defense and the timing was disrupted things would just seem slightly off and the closer completions turned into incompletions and something that might have been a close incompletion was in danger of being picked. He had those issues more in the playoffs because that's where those defenses usually resided. Montana wouldn't have lit up the regular season as often, but he wouldn't have been as hand tied in the playoffs. I don't think Montana loses the 2009 Super Bowl. Probably 2013. But he also probably gives the team a better chance in 05, 08 etc than Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeker Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Brady and Montana are 1a 1b for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Joe Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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