RavensDefense3 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 the only bad game the ravens have had was against panthers on the road. aside from that we've had solid performances against the top offenses. 24 points to the saints, and 27 points to the chiefs in 5 quarters at their place. under 40 points in 2 games to the steelers. if we can get a good run going in these last games we could have a shot. as far as this year though, we're as good as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, RavensDefense3 said: the only bad game the ravens have had was against panthers on the road. aside from that we've had solid performances against the top offenses. 24 points to the saints, and 27 points to the chiefs in 5 quarters at their place. under 40 points in 2 games to the steelers. if we can get a good run going in these last games we could have a shot. as far as this year though, we're as good as anyone. Forget about the Bengals game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 No.. Bears/Cowboys/Ravens/Saints/Aaron Donald are pretty solid though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 At first glance I thought no. Both of those defenses were stacked with talent, especially the Jags, and only had a few bad outings all year, and I know their points allowed were definitely far superior to anybody's this year. That being said, from a statistical stand point, those defenses actually lag well behind the Bears. Where the regular season DVOA (projected for 2018 teams) ranks between those Jags and Vikes squads and this years top defenses: 2018 Bears -32.4% * 2018 Ravens -16.3% 2017 Jaguars -16.2% 2018 Bills -14.9% 2018 Broncos -14.8% 2017 Vikings -13.9% *That would be the 2nd best defensive DVOA ever... obviously Bears are not likely to keep pace, but they'll still finish with a defensive DVOA well above the Jags in 2018 and a historically high one. Although it should be noted that DVOA is all about relativity, the Bears D is playing x amount better than the average defense in 2018. So in a year where offenses league wide are exceeding, it adjusts to the new averages rather than say "maybe defenses are just bad this year." In a year of an offensive boom, this in turn gives a "boost" to defenses while docking the offenses, since it assumes no outliers. Eye test I still say the Jags are the best of the bunch, they were just so insanely fast and hard hitting. I get a bit of that same feel from the Bears but it's not quite to the same degree, and I also feel like Bears have been less consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yup. Chicago's defense is so much farther ahead of any other defense this year. And they're actually among the best of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensDefense3 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Forget about the Bengals game? bengals game we still held them to under 30 points with only allowing 3 points in the 2nd half. that's not horrible these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Calvert28 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, RavensDefense3 said: bengals game we still held them to under 30 points with only allowing 3 points in the 2nd half. that's not horrible these days. FG's are still points. Yall gave up 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1. Chicago 2. Buffalo 3. Baltimore 4. Jacksonville 5. Cleveland 6. LA Rams Everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Like I said in the comparison forum. The Bears defense are not just good, they're historically great. The Bears defense are currently ranked 7th all-time going all the way back to 1989 (925 teams). Top 30 ranked teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensDefense3 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: FG's are still points. Yall gave up 34. yeah i dont know why i thought we gave up 27, but yes the first bengals game and the carolina game are the only games we've given up 30+. almost made a comeback on that bengals game though, dominated the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So guys... DVOA is in comparison to other teams the same year. If the question is do the top defenses of this year compare to last year it's not the metric you want to use. The average defense is significantly worse this year. Compare: 2017 Jags: 1.26 points per drive, 22.91 yards per drive 2018 Bears: 1.59 points per drive, 27.15 yards per drive That's a very significant gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: So guys... DVOA is in comparison to other teams the same year. If the question is do the top defenses of this year compare to last year it's not the metric you want to use. The average defense is significantly worse this year. Compare: 2017 Jags: 1.26 points per drive, 22.91 yards per drive 2018 Bears: 1.59 points per drive, 27.15 yards per drive That's a very significant gap. This isn't taking this years offensive inflation into account either. That's why DVOA is a good metric to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 2018-12-11 at 6:22 PM, bucsfan333 said: Yup. Chicago's defense is so much farther ahead of any other defense this year. And they're actually among the best of all time. They are playing at a high level. I hope all the teams get/stay healthy and see how the bears do. They controlled the rams game, but the Saints will be a test and am looking forward to that game int he dome if it happens. Then if they play the Chiefs or Chargers in in the SB, another test. The Bears D is legit, they get TO's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 2018-12-11 at 7:01 PM, JustAnotherFan said: This isn't taking this years offensive inflation into account either. That's why DVOA is a good metric to use. or the schedule the had and got the stats from . What matter is how they finish, Jags never won SB or made it there. Lets see how this season goes for the best D in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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