ibt734 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Sugashane said: FYI - McManis played pretty well at GB, but didn't do well at all this week. He had one pass defended near the goal line. Saved a red zone possession deep in Bear territory. Did the same thing twice last week. No one has scored on him. Great work. As good or better than the guy he replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibt734 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Sugashane said: @ibt734 Have you found where you "eviscerated" me in this thread so you can quote me yet? You keep saying you did in our messages, but no examples yet. Still waiting... Don't bring PM beefs to the open forum. You should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 hours ago, ibt734 said: He had one pass defended near the goal line. Saved a red zone possession deep in Bear territory. Did the same thing twice last week. No one has scored on him. Great work. As good or better than the guy he replaced. You really do have blinders on, I disproved that last page. He had an ok game, was not great on any way. You even said before pass rush was making the reason the DBs looked good and it might even be the system, so you've already undermined your own post, since the pass rush has been causing a ton of pressure. 6 hours ago, ibt734 said: Don't bring PM beefs to the open forum. You should know better. You're the one with the agenda, I'm calling you on it, openly. You've had one since you got a warning for trolling - which I never called for, it was given to you independent of my actions. You want to spout generalities and not back them up. Prove your claims that i was wrong directly or back down and admit you've made no real points against me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On another note, if Callahan gets too big an offer in FA, does anyone feel like Tolliver is set to compete for a starting role? I was happy with the signing, but I feel like he will be at his best on the outside. Fuller can move inside too, but I've been really happy with his play on the outside, where he normally gets a top match up. McManis is already in his 30s so not a real long term option IMO, Any FAs that you guys are interested in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLCbear Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Not sure which thread is best to post it, not worthy of own thread .. but Swearinger just released by skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman52 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, SLCbear said: Not sure which thread is best to post it, not worthy of own thread .. but Swearinger just released by skins "Any team that claims him will be responsible for the $176,470 in salary remaining on his 2018 contract, per Field Yates of ESPN." Could be worth bringing in as another body to compete with Bush or relieve Amos until EJ returns for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibt734 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Sugashane said: You really do have blinders on, I disproved that last page. He had an ok game, was not great on any way. You even said before pass rush was making the reason the DBs looked good and it might even be the system, so you've already undermined your own post, since the pass rush has been causing a ton of pressure. You're the one with the agenda, I'm calling you on it, openly. You've had one since you got a warning for trolling - which I never called for, it was given to you independent of my actions. You want to spout generalities and not back them up. Prove your claims that i was wrong directly or back down and admit you've made no real points against me. McManis had a good game. Previously you said he had a bad game yesterday. Now you say he had a good game. Make up your mind. You crave the attention of this forum. That is why you bring our PM beef here. You need the support. Handle your own business for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, ibt734 said: McManis had a good game. Previously you said he had a bad game yesterday. Now you say he had a good game. Make up your mind. You crave the attention of this forum. That is why you bring our PM beef here. You need the support. Handle your own business for once. "Good" and "ok" are completely different to most people. He made no real impact on the game. If that is good to you, then there are roughly 70 good CBs in the NFL right now. He had a number of broken plays, but thankfully passrush didn't let that get exposed as they had to go to quick passes to Kittle and Goodwin. I'm not going to pretend he did well on the last throw when Larry Fitzgerald in his prime couldn't have caught that ball. Good games the players make a real impact, he was not that factor. We even went to base quite a bit to put the defense in better situations. "Ok" games are where he doesn't have many positive plays, but also has few negative impacts on the game. Getting beat deep is always a bad play for example, but if the ball doesn't go to that WR or the ball is thrown away then it had no negative impact. See how that works? I come here to talk football, mostly the Bears. the last week you have come here only for me? So who really craves attention? 1 hour ago, SLCbear said: Not sure which thread is best to post it, not worthy of own thread .. but Swearinger just released by skins Was he released just because of his comments? I thought he had been a solid player from the little I have seen/heard of him. If no legal issues I'd hope we would bring him in. Might allow us more flexibility next year too if Pace isn't really sure what Amos will want or if he wants to allocate funds elsewhere. Probably will get claimed before us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Sugashane said: On another note, if Callahan gets too big an offer in FA, does anyone feel like Tolliver is set to compete for a starting role? I was happy with the signing, but I feel like he will be at his best on the outside. Fuller can move inside too, but I've been really happy with his play on the outside, where he normally gets a top match up. McManis is already in his 30s so not a real long term option IMO, Any FAs that you guys are interested in? Tolliver has looked good every time he has played. And looks like he has physical talent to be much better than what he has shown. He went undrafted so maybe he has some issues I don’t know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: Tolliver has looked good every time he has played. And looks like he has physical talent to be much better than what he has shown. He went undrafted so maybe he has some issues I don’t know about. IIRC he was really cocky, has some suspension issue and some injury concerns. I hope he is being groomed to be a true starter caliber player, seems like all the DBs have made serious progression under Donatell. It would be awesome for that trend to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 hours ago, dll2000 said: Tolliver has looked good every time he has played. And looks like he has physical talent to be much better than what he has shown. He went undrafted so maybe he has some issues I don’t know about. Yeah, Tolliver had a bunch if off field issues. Otherwise he stays at LSU and comes out as a top 10 pick this year. I think you can being him out in nickel and move Fuller or Prince inside. Tolliver is strictly a boundary CB. Dont make the same mistake that GB is with JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Superman(DH23) said: Yeah, Tolliver had a bunch if off field issues. Otherwise he stays at LSU and comes out as a top 10 pick this year. I think you can being him out in nickel and move Fuller or Prince inside. Tolliver is strictly a boundary CB. Dont make the same mistake that GB is with JJ Just using eye test he is second best athlete Bears have in secondary after Jackson. Other guys are still better, but he is better athlete. He is big, strong, physical and fast. Tools to be a very good zone corner behind a Khalil Mack or a press corner in man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 1:12 PM, ibt734 said: McManis had a good game. Previously you said he had a bad game yesterday. Now you say he had a good game. Make up your mind. You crave the attention of this forum. That is why you bring our PM beef here. You need the support. Handle your own business for once. Per webby, @ibt734 has been suspended for two weeks after receiving numerous warnings for trolling both here and in nfl general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ_11 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 hours ago, CBears019 said: Per webby, @ibt734 has been suspended for two weeks after receiving numerous warnings for trolling both here and in nfl general. Anyone seen the state of NFL General since he joined? It's just a lite-version of the Bears forum, every other thread is one of his Bears topics. Making it look like this is our first winning season ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 14 hours ago, CBears019 said: Per webby, @ibt734 has been suspended for two weeks after receiving numerous warnings for trolling both here and in nfl general. Man I missed all the fun with this guy....too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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