AnAngryAmerican Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, bMiller031 said: Adam Gase is doing his best do de-value the Manning endorsement. Adam Gase is an incompetent hack who got lucky once. Did you see his press conference with the Jets? Made Jim Tomsula’s look good. He will he fired by the Jets inside of three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutler06 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 In the past a new coaching staff was given the opportunity for an "extra" team workout, is that still available and when can that happen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 9:43 PM, Cutler06 said: In the past a new coaching staff was given the opportunity for an "extra" team workout, is that still available and when can that happen ? Yes. I was watching a video of Freddie Kitchens interview the other day and he mentioned something about having extended time because he is a new HC hire. So I believe with a new coaching hire players can report to workouts/camp a week or so earlier than other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germ-x Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Didn’t know where to put it, but been watching watching the senior bowl today. a few notes: Deebo Samuel looks damn good. Explosive with length for a shorter WR and with good bulk at 216. Montez Sweat absolutely destroyed Andre Dillard in 1 on 1 multiple times. Sweat is a freak, but Dillard is getting 1st round hype and had absolutely no base. Quick out of his stance and quick feet, but looks like strength may be an issue. On the flip side though, Sweats abused everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germ-x Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Didn’t know where to put it, but been watching the senior bowl today. a few notes: Deebo Samuel looks damn good. Explosive with length for a shorter WR and with good bulk at 216. Montez Sweat absolutely destroyed Andre Dillard in 1 on 1 multiple times. Sweat is a freak, but Dillard is getting 1st round hype and had absolutely no base. Quick out of his stance and quick feet, but looks like strength may be an issue. On the flip side though, Sweats abused everybody. Edited January 22, 2019 by germ-x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, germ-x said: Didn’t know where to put it, but been watching the senior bowl today. a few notes: Deebo Samuel looks damn good. Explosive with length for a shorter WR and with good bulk at 216. Montez Sweat absolutely destroyed Andre Dillard in 1 on 1 multiple times. Sweat is a freak, but Dillard is getting 1st round hype and had absolutely no base. Quick out of his stance and quick feet, but looks like strength may be an issue. On the flip side though, Sweats abused everybody. Omg deebo looks good hes the perfect compliment to Sutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The media pump up of Drew Lock is already in full force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 not brought in to rebuild ! Love the Flacco or Foles options. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, champ11 said: not brought in to rebuild ! Love the Flacco or Foles options. LMAO Where's this guy get his info or ideas? He's been shootin' blanks for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, AKRNA said: Where's this guy get his info or ideas? He's been shootin' blanks for a while now. He’s basically the DEN mouthpiece. His own takes are awful. The news he breaks come from the org. Why he breaks it before it’s official - draft picks, trades, firings, hirings all come from the team. It also leads to awful team pieces like “Keenum’s not so bad” and “we lost to CLE playing with our backup CB’s” as lead pieces for the post game. That message that the org isn’t considering a rebuild now mirrors Elway’s stance at the last presser - no coincidence there. The ideas that are his own are awful. And it’s not limited to football - baseball, basketball. Yesterday he tried to put fort the argument that Juan Pierre should have at least got 1 HoF vote because he only had 30 less career hits than a DH. Despite the fact he was a terrible defender and only hit singles and was below average in actually getting on base. To say it was a bad take is an understatement. But being the org mouthpiece keeps him relevant for news. And if it’s a team piece on their direction...they mirror Elway’s statements So he’s a barometer for the team breaking news - but not much else. Edited January 23, 2019 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Broncofan said: He’s basically the DEN mouthpiece. His own takes are awful. The news he breaks come from the org. Why he breaks it before it’s official - draft picks, trades, firings, hirings all come from the team. It also leads to awful team pieces like “Keenum’s not so bad” and “we lost to CLE playing with our backup CB’s” as lead pieces for the post game. That message that the org isn’t considering a rebuild now mirrors Elway’s stance at the last presser - no coincidence there. The ideas that are his own are awful. And it’s not limited to football - baseball, basketball. Yesterday he tried to put fort the argument that Juan Pierre should have at least got 1 HoF vote because he only had 30 less career hits than a DH. Despite the fact he was a terrible defender and only hit singles and was below average in actually getting on base. To say it was a bad take is an understatement. But being the org mouthpiece keeps him relevant for news. And if it’s a team piece on their direction...they mirror Elway’s statements So he’s a barometer for the team breaking news - but not much else. Probably true but how can you tell when he's a mouth piece or on his own? His takes and speculation on our coaching hires were wildly off base. Kubiak/Fangio co HC's for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, AKRNA said: Probably true but how can you tell when he's a mouth piece or on his own? His takes and speculation on our coaching hires were wildly off base. Kubiak/Fangio co HC's for example. Well, I know you believe that, just that again, you're believing it's literally the only point he's made on hirings/firings, draft picks, and trades made where you think he's wrong...or he was correct, and Elway just had to change course - so we'll leave it at that, no sense in rehashing that over again. If it's a non-football take, he's pretty much on his own, and as seen by the Nuggets / baseball takes (and they are truly horrid lol) . The football takes, though, make no mistake - it's being fed to him to act as mouthpiece (it's no coincidence on why the post-game takes sounded a lot like VJ's pressers next day, or team built to win now mirrors Elway's current take, etc.). They're often out there as a tester - VJ keeping his job safe after the 3-6 start is a good example, as are the pieces on how DEN has to go out and get a new QB - and may in fact feel compelled to reach for 1.10 (or go vet, he's basically putting any possibility, but it's prep work team-wise) - they often precede the party line. The replies to those takes are actually quite amusing (calling out the mouthpiece angle)...if somewhat predictable. Edited January 23, 2019 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRNA Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Broncofan said: Well, I know you believe that, just that again, you're believing it's literally the only point he's made on hirings/firings, draft picks, and trades made where you think he's wrong...or he was correct, and Elway just had to change course - so we'll leave it at that, no sense in rehashing that over again. If it's a non-football take, he's pretty much on his own, and as seen by the Nuggets / baseball takes (and they are truly horrid lol) . The football takes, though, make no mistake - it's being fed to him to act as mouthpiece (it's no coincidence on why the post-game takes sounded a lot like VJ's pressers next day, or team built to win now mirrors Elway's current take, etc.). The replies to those takes are actually quite amusing...if somewhat predictable. Yeah, maybe. We'll never know. I actually prefer Andrew Mason. His replies in his "mailbag" can be pretty revealing and unlike Klis, we actually do know where he gets his info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, AKRNA said: Probably true but how can you tell when he's a mouth piece or on his own? His takes and speculation on our coaching hires were wildly off base. Kubiak/Fangio co HC's for example. For what it's worth, I can attest that Klis is a mouthpiece for the organization, that's a widely-known fact in the Colorado media circles (of which I am a part). I was reading a piece at 247sports and the writer, and I don't remember if it was Trickel or Kelberman or Jensen or someone else, had a line referring to Klis as "essentially part of the brain trust" at Dove Valley. The Kubiak/Fangio co-HC was the plan until Gary proved uncompromising when it came to filling out his subordinate staff. Elway wanted Kubiak at the top of that org chart but wanted younger, newer-age voices in other positions, Gary wanted his trusted pals from the past like Dennison and Pariani. Everyone was told that was the plan; try to replicate the 2015 tandem of Gary as OC/HC and Wade as DC, only with Vic handling the media/PR aspects of being the HC. That arrangement, since we're in win-now mode given the legal and financial problems losing causes for the organization's leadership, was "what made the trust (read: Eliis) most comfortable." That was the plan, Klis reported it from his souces, as did Schefter, Renck, Stapleton, Javbala, Shapiro, Clough, Lombardi, et. al., it wasn't speculation or a "take" on Klis' part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, AKRNA said: Yeah, maybe. We'll never know. I actually prefer Andrew Mason. His replies in his "mailbag" can be pretty revealing and unlike Klis, we actually do know where he gets his info. Actually, we do know. The vast majority of the casual fan base, especially the older fan base, i.e. the ones that are old enough to afford season tickets, primarily get their Broncos information from two sources - 9news and KOA - and both entity's chief Broncos "reporters", Mike Klis and Dave Logan, are on the organization's payroll given that their entities are the team's broadcast partners. Remember the whole "Belchick, Carroll and Reid are in their 60s and they're the best coaches in the game" line that Klis used all over the place just before Vic was announced as the new HC? I heard Logan make a similar argument on the radio and, the press release I received from the Broncos' media relations department contained literally that exact line of argument. From the team's PR perspective, they wanted to counter the prevailing thought that the league is going young, new and innovative and every team should be looking for the next Sean McVay. To pump up the fan base for hiring a 60 year old, never-been-a-HC before, comes from the defensive side of the ball, they trotted out the Belichick, Carroll, Reid line to counter it. It's no coincidence that Klis and Logan trotted out the same line a day or so before the hire was made official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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