NightTrainLane Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: I would rather he built up the courage to challenge the ghosts coming off the edge or the turf monster that keeps getting sacks. Oh no. We need to be careful. If he reads this he might challenge us to an MMA fight also. Sorry I could not help myself. Old habits die hard. Nope, Only if you question his effort, heart or integrity like a normal man would. He said his game play is fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, NightTrainLane said: Nope, Only if you question his effort, heart or integrity like a normal man would. He said his game play is fair game. I think he does feel ghost pressure. My opinion is not that he is a coward compared to the average man but that he lacks courage relative to an NFL QB. You want to give me my paycheck to play in the NFL and I probably would not because it would not cover my medical bills when I retire. If you want to give me Carr's paycheck with the rule that I can not give myself up or run out of bounds I will do it in a heartbeat. That leads t the greater problem is I would take one years pay and put it all on the line. Carr is looking at longevity because he wants to play out his contract. So he plays it safe now and when he is in his contract year he will ball out to secure another big contract. You can not play to not get hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, drfrey13 said: I think he does feel ghost pressure. My opinion is not that he is a coward compared to the average man but that he lacks courage relative to an NFL QB. You want to give me my paycheck to play in the NFL and I probably would not because it would not cover my medical bills when I retire. If you want to give me Carr's paycheck with the rule that I can not give myself up or run out of bounds I will do it in a heartbeat. That leads t the greater problem is I would take one years pay and put it all on the line. Carr is looking at longevity because he wants to play out his contract. So he plays it safe now and when he is in his contract year he will ball out to secure another big contract. You can not play to not get hurt. Definitely your unsolicited opinion and not what Carr took issue with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rolni Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: The Cable effect...still can't believe we kept him... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Rolni said: The Cable effect...still can't believe we kept him... 2 rookie tackles didn’t help in all fairness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&BlackWarrior47 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Dessie said: 2 rookie tackles didn’t help in all fairness. He did pound the table for those 2 rookie tackles. Gruden gave him he wanted, results on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Silver&BlackWarrior47 said: He did pound the table for those 2 rookie tackles. Gruden gave him he wanted, results on him. Everywhere he goes he makes his unit worse. Cable is like a virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 8 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: someone with twitter send this to Mayock or one of those beat writers... beat writers need to grow a pair and show Gruden and Mayock this info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I still think it's stupid to keep Cable and drop KO and Jackson ..... why create more hole when there is plenty of current needs.... not like we need the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: I still think it's stupid to keep Cable and drop KO and Jackson ..... why create more hole when there is plenty of current needs.... not like we need the money I still do not get why people say this. You can always use more money. The real question is can we use the money tied up in KO and Jackson's contract more effectively. If nothing else it rolls over into next years cap space. This team needs to pick a philosophy, develop a scheme, and build the talent around it. Big powerful and expensive interior lineman are not suppose to be needed. Not that they can't be used but if we can get some cheap o linemen that can execute the game plan then the savings can be used on other positions. Maybe we could throw some money at some edge players or upgrade some skill positions. I do not think it is stupid to keep Cable and get rid of KO and Jackson. I think it is stupid to keep Cable period. KO and Jackson need to be evaluated to see if their contracts are justified in Gruden's offense regardless of who is the line coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I actually think that the position that needs to be evaluated most of all, this is not Carr bashing, is the QB. We have a QB that does not like to run and whose pocket movement is suspect. We have now combined him with a O-line coach that has shown can build a solid run blocking line but will have your QB running for his life. I think it is Carr who is a bad scheme fit with Cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: someone with twitter send this to Mayock or one of those beat writers... beat writers need to grow a pair and show Gruden and Mayock this info You don't think they know how their oline performed? Jeez man... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolni Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Dessie said: 2 rookie tackles didn’t help in all fairness. I guess that and the injured OG's got him a 2nd season, but I still don't like it. Haven't seen anything from this OL what would make me semi confident...haven't seen any development from the rookies for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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