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Feeling down the past two days with a cold/chills. Congestion/running nose/sore throat. Still though, I'm going stir crazy, this helped past my time. A lot of assumptions with this mock. Nothing really out of the "realm" of possibility... I didn't trade Stafford, or sign 4-8 high priced players. No major trade. I didn't exactly do what I would do personally. 

 

Lions hire Jason Garrett as Offensive coordinator and Assistant Head coach.  

Lions hire Doug Marrone as the Offensive-line coach.  

Lions hire Nate Kaczor as Special team’s coordinator.

Lions hire Tom Shaw as Strength and conditioning coach.

 

Lions restructure WR Marvin Jones, CB Darius Slay, and DT Damon Harrison to save around 12 million dollars all together.

 

Lions cut OG TJ Lang.

Lions cut RT Ricky Wagner

Lions cut OG Kenny Wiggins.

Lions cut OG Joe Dahl.

Lion cut S Glover Quin.

Lions cut DB Teez Tabor

Lions cut K Matt Prater.

(33.5 million Estimated saved. Cuts+Restructures.)

 

Lions sign OLB Trey Flowers to a 5 year deal worth 47 million dollars, 9.5 million dollar signing bonus, 7.5 million dollar salary. 30 million guaranteed.

Lions sign OG A.J. Cann to a 5 year 28 million dollar deal, 6 million dollar signing bonus, 4.4 million dollar salary. *22 million guaranteed.

Lions sign OT Jordan Mills to a 4 year deal worth 18 million, 3 million dollar signing bonus, 3.5 million dollar salary. * 8 million guaranteed.

Lions sign OG John Miller to a 4 year deal worth 10.5 million, 1.5 million dollar signing bonus, 2.25 million dollar salary. * 5.5 million guaranteed.

Lions sign WR Cole Beasley to a 3 year deal worth 12 million dollars, 1.5 million dollar signing bonus, 3.5 million dollar salary.

Lions sign WR Devin Funchess to a 2 year deal worth 7 million dollars, 2 million dollar signing bonus, 2.5 million dollar salary.

Lions sign DT Malcolm Brown to a 2 year deal worth 7 million dollars, 750k dollar signing bonus, 3.125 million dollar salary.

Lions sign TE Jesse James to a 2 year deal worth 6.5 million dollars, 2.5 million dollar signing bonus, 2 million dollar salary.

Lions sign CB Bene Benwikere to a 2 year deal worth 3 million dollars, 750k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollar salary.

Lions sign OLB Lorenzo Alexander to a 1 year deal worth 2.5 million dollars, 800k dollar signing bonus, 1.7 million dollar salary.

Lions resign QB Matt Cassell to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollar salary.

Lions resign TE Luke Wilson to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollar salary.

Lions resign LS Don Mulbach to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollars salary.

Lions resign RB Zach Zenner to the league minimum.

Lions resign RFA's DE/OLB Romeo Okwara, LB Trevor Bates, DB Charles Washington, and DB Michael Ford.

 

 

Draft:

1st- Dwayne Haskins, QB. Ohio State. ( 6’3, 220lbs. )

2nd- Jerry Tillery, DT. Notre Dame. ( 6’7, 305lbs. )

3rd- (Eagles) Brian Burns, OLB. Florida State. ( 6’5, 235lbs )

4th- Myles Gaskins, RB. Washington. ( 5’10, 195lbs. )

6th- Alize Mack, TE. Notre Dame. ( 6’3, 255lbs. )

6th- (Patriots) Prince Tega Wanogho, OT. Auburn. ( 6’7, 310lbs. )

7th- Matt Gay, K. Utah. ( 6’1, 220lbs. )

7th- (Dolphins) Conner McGovern, C/OG. Penn State. ( 6’5, 325lbs. )

 

Offense:


OT: Jordan Mills, Prince Tega Wanogho

OG: A.J. Cann,* Conner McGovern

OC: Frank Ragnow, Graham Glasgow

OG: John Miller

OT: Taylor Decker, Tyrell Crosby

TE: Jesse James, Alize Mack, Luke Wilson, * Michael Roberts

WR: Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay, Cole Beasley, Devin Funchess, * Brandon Powell

RB: Kerryon Johnson, Myles Gaskins, Theo Riddick, * Zach Zenner

FB/HB/TE: Nick Bawden

QB: Matt Stafford, Dwayne Haskins, * Matt Cassell

 

Defense:  (3/4) (4/3) hybrid defense.

DE: Malcolm Brown, Jerry Tillery

DT: Damon “Snacks” Harrison, A’ Shawn Robinson

DE: Da`Shawn Hand, Romeo Okwara

OLB: Trey Flowers, Lorenzo Alexander

ILB: Christian Jones, Jalen Reeves-Maybin

ILB: Jarrad Davis, Trevor Bates

OLB: Devon Kennard, Brain Burns

 

DE: Trey Flowers, Lorenzo Alexander

DT: Jerry Tillery, Malcolm Brown

DT: A’ Shawn Robinson, Damon “Snacks” Harrison

DE: Romeo Okwara, Da`Shawn Hand

OLB: Christian Jones, Jalen Reeves-Maybin

ILB: Jarrad Davis, * Trevor Bates

OLB: Devon Kennard, Brain Burn


CB: Darius Slay, Jamal Agnew, Charles Washington

S: Quandre Diggs, Tavon Wilson

S: Tracy Walker, * Miles Killebrew

CB: Nevin Lawson, Bene Benwikere, Michael Ford

Special Teams:
K: Matt Gay
P: Sam Martin
LS: Don Mulbach

KR/PR: Jamal Agnew

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Secondary scary thin again. Like you aggression with the ol but might be to much.. 

Like tillery and burns

Your possibly looking at the same problems with Haskins that Matt has...imo

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I didn't really address the secondary. I tried adding pass rushers on pass rushers to help our secondary out a bit. With how the game is called, etc, I don't like spending tons of money on coverage when guys can't cover long anyways. Just me personally, the best coverage for any team is a great overall pass rush. I tried doing that by drafting/signing guys like Brown/Tillery/Flowers/Alexander/Burns with who we already had in Kennard/Okwara(RFA). I tried getting guys scheme versatile too. 

Offensively I tried to copy what the Bengals did a few years back spreading talent all over for Dalton from TE/RB's/and real depth at WR. Obvouisly not as talented as Eifert/Green but collectively I think the above group is solid. I think I always do an over-kill on Oline, but I really don't care. Guys get hurt, etc, it's not the worst thing to have 6-8 real competitive guys going for starting jobs on any teams O-line.

As far as Haskins, I'm not sure what you're pointing to specifically. I think he's got a little better "touch" than Stafford with more than enough arm to zip it there when needed. Idk if you're talking about decision making, etc, you'd have to get a little more specific for me to really engage. I don't expect him to start early but if Stafford continues his down trend with team improvements... Then well we've got a guy in the system that's a leg up, and if Stafford bounces back and does good for us... well then we have a good problem for the first time in a long time!

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1 hour ago, SimbaWho said:

I didn't really address the secondary. I tried adding pass rushers on pass rushers to help our secondary out a bit. With how the game is called, etc, I don't like spending tons of money on coverage when guys can't cover long anyways. Just me personally, the best coverage for any team is a great overall pass rush. I tried doing that by drafting/signing guys like Brown/Tillery/Flowers/Alexander/Burns with who we already had in Kennard/Okwara(RFA). I tried getting guys scheme versatile too. 

I couldn't agree with this philosophy more. I hope that's the route they take.

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1 hour ago, Nnivolcm said:

I couldn't agree with this philosophy more. I hope that's the route they take.

Just curious but who do you say does this route? 

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15 minutes ago, Rockcity2 said:

Just curious but who do you say does this route? 

Who prioritizes pass rushers? I'd say Chicago is a good example from just this year.

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18 hours ago, Nnivolcm said:

Who prioritizes pass rushers? I'd say Chicago is a good example from just this year.

They sure don't total avoid secondary..

Pittsburgh feels like a better example..

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3 hours ago, Rockcity2 said:

They sure don't total avoid secondary..

Pittsburgh feels like a better example..

Bit of a exaggeration don't you think with Slay/Diggs starting? It's at least an average secondary right now imo. A lot of players are hurt currently/playing knicked up. 

Yeah, Lots of teams have done it with success like Pittsburgh/49ers with Harbaugh/Bengals/TB when they won a SuperBowl/Giants/Houston to a certain extent and I know Ramsey gets alot of attention from the Jags but I think they were nicked named SacksonVille for a reason. Doesn't mean success totally cause you need to pick the right guys and sign the right players but... Idk, with the way they call things like pass interference, etc, on defensive guys the most successful way I see to combat an offense/great QB's right now is by making them one dimensional and letting loose your hounds(pass rushers) minimizing time for WR/QB's to work. We've got built in run stoppers with Harrison/Hand. Supplementing them with decent run blockers and good pass rushers should just help the defense overall, especially the back 4. Adding those type of guys gives the Lions a chance to sign/draft DB's in lower rounds and bring them up slowly vs thrusting them into a situation immediately. 

* It's just a personal philosophy doesn't mean you're wrong either for wanting a stable of DB's, they get hurt easily, and the L.O.B. was pretty good. In saying that though it's been awhile since we've seen a single DB like Revis/Asomuagha/Deon in a long time. Where a whole defense can be schemed around a single defensive back player.

Hard to get a player like Mack too or Donald, etc, but if Lions can pair Harrison with a solid pass rush overall I think the defense can be devastating when the team has a lead. Based on the numbers since the Harrison trade, it's hard not to assume the Lions run defense might be stronger next year with new/better players around Harrison. 

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6 hours ago, SimbaWho said:

Bit of a exaggeration don't you think with Slay/Diggs starting? It's at least an average secondary right now imo. A lot of players are hurt currently/playing knicked up. 

Yeah, Lots of teams have done it with success like Pittsburgh/49ers with Harbaugh/Bengals/TB when they won a SuperBowl/Giants/Houston to a certain extent and I know Ramsey gets alot of attention from the Jags but I think they were nicked named SacksonVille for a reason. Doesn't mean success totally cause you need to pick the right guys and sign the right players but... Idk, with the way they call things like pass interference, etc, on defensive guys the most successful way I see to combat an offense/great QB's right now is by making them one dimensional and letting loose your hounds(pass rushers) minimizing time for WR/QB's to work. We've got built in run stoppers with Harrison/Hand. Supplementing them with decent run blockers and good pass rushers should just help the defense overall, especially the back 4. Adding those type of guys gives the Lions a chance to sign/draft DB's in lower rounds and bring them up slowly vs thrusting them into a situation immediately. 

* It's just a personal philosophy doesn't mean you're wrong either for wanting a stable of DB's, they get hurt easily, and the L.O.B. was pretty good. In saying that though it's been awhile since we've seen a single DB like Revis/Asomuagha/Deon in a long time. Where a whole defense can be schemed around a single defensive back player.

Hard to get a player like Mack too or Donald, etc, but if Lions can pair Harrison with a solid pass rush overall I think the defense can be devastating when the team has a lead. Based on the numbers since the Harrison trade, it's hard not to assume the Lions run defense might be stronger next year with new/better players around Harrison. 

Didn't sacksonville bring in like 3 starting dbs in one year. Bc they couldn't do it your way?

All I'm asking for is at least someone better than Lawson...saftey

I just think you can be more versatile with better dbs not so much the other way around strictly pr

 

 

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13 hours ago, Rockcity2 said:

They sure don't total avoid secondary..

Pittsburgh feels like a better example..

Our secondary has been avoided? We've got a all pro level #1 in Slay, a very good SS in Diggs, we just invested a 3rd in a FS that's showing promise to take over for Glover next year, Agnew has looked good in the slot and has a lot more room to grow, and we've had success with Lawson at times without a pass rush. I also never said we couldn't add to the secondary. If there is value there, by all means, add to it. 

However, if there are two players with similar grades available with the same selection, they should prioritize the pass rusher over the defensive back. 

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2 hours ago, Nnivolcm said:

Our secondary has been avoided? We've got a all pro level #1 in Slay, a very good SS in Diggs, we just invested a 3rd in a FS that's showing promise to take over for Glover next year, Agnew has looked good in the slot and has a lot more room to grow, and we've had success with Lawson at times without a pass rush. I also never said we couldn't add to the secondary. If there is value there, by all means, add to it. 

However, if there are two players with similar grades available with the same selection, they should prioritize the pass rusher over the defensive back. 

Lawson on now a one yr deal

And walker has shown enough not to have a decent back-up..i like walker but dam seems like your asking a lot. One injury your screwed..other ways to accomplish a pr not so easy to find guys who can cover people.  

Don't get it twisted tho bc I want some pass rushers too..

Also how can you determine value with so many factors plus we need players everywhere...value to me is bpa not oh we sucked at this this year so try to fix at the cost of missing out on better talent .teams do the same crap every year...

...thats kinda why I brought up the steelers. They invested heavy over the years in their pr now you need secondary now you overdraft on a saftey hoping for a quick fix

WE HAVE NO LBS.. overdraft Davis

WE HAVE NO LT.... overdraft decker

WE HAVE NO RB.. overdraft 3

WE HAVE NO CBs... nothing signing guys off the streets it seems every year.. saftey ah we will just move guys around.. 

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8 hours ago, Rockcity2 said:

Lawson on now a one yr deal

And walker has shown enough not to have a decent back-up..i like walker but dam seems like your asking a lot. One injury your screwed..other ways to accomplish a pr not so easy to find guys who can cover people.  

Don't get it twisted tho bc I want some pass rushers too..

Also how can you determine value with so many factors plus we need players everywhere...value to me is bpa not oh we sucked at this this year so try to fix at the cost of missing out on better talent .teams do the same crap every year...

...thats kinda why I brought up the steelers. They invested heavy over the years in their pr now you need secondary now you overdraft on a saftey hoping for a quick fix

WE HAVE NO LBS.. overdraft Davis

WE HAVE NO LT.... overdraft decker

WE HAVE NO RB.. overdraft 3

WE HAVE NO CBs... overdraft Tabor, trade for former 2nd rounder Banks, resign Lawson, bring in Shead for competition in FA...

Fixed that last line for you.

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As I see it if you don't have a pass rush your pretty much a stand still defense up front and your putting all the pressure on a one on one match up. which no one and not everyone can be Slay or Revis....so make there jobs a lot easier and rush the crap out of them every other play and have a rotation at DL...the bears are doing it and with success and there DL is making Kyle Fuller look like a big name cb. 

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I like the Post just have a couple questions seeing i havent looked or watched these guys yet...what do you see in cuting Matt Prater? kinda felt that he fell off this year but not as much as Quin did. What do you see in Dwayne Haskins...future starter or just a good backup?

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