ninjapirate Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, nlesthought said: A GM only has 1 year to decide if the fit works, why would they mortgage 3 first round picks? carson has two years left on his deal and you trade for him and commit to him like there is no fit. You build around him. He is an upgrade on 2/3s of the teams in the league and half the other third would be interested because their qbs are old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlesthought Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ninjapirate said: carson has two years left on his deal and you trade for him and commit to him like there is no fit. You build around him. He is an upgrade on 2/3s of the teams in the league and half the other third would be interested because their qbs are old. You got 1 and then the 5th year option @ 26m. If you trade for him and his new offense/coach don't fit what then. You are talking like 90% of analyst, I'm sure the Raiders built around Carr before his new deal. MOfF ALL decent QBs with a future have been built around. Do they live up to those expectations? Naw not really. Its why its called Black Monday...QBs have been getting GMs/Coaching staffs fired for years. I'm sure they built around Matt Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, nlesthought said: You got 1 and then the 5th year option @ 26m. If you trade for him and his new offense/coach don't fit what then. You are talking like 90% of analyst, I'm sure the Raiders built around Carr before his new deal. MOfF ALL decent QBs with a future have been built around. Do they live up to those expectations? Naw not really. Its why its called Black Monday...QBs have been getting GMs/Coaching staffs fired for years. I'm sure they built around Matt Ryan. you think really lowly of carson its kind of weird. You feeling ok bud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlesthought Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ninjapirate said: you think really lowly of carson its kind of weird. You feeling ok bud? Not low...I like Carson I'd like to think I'm a realist too, no smart person is going to give up 3 first for a QB that's only had 1 season of above .500 play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, nlesthought said: Not low...I like Carson I'd like to think I'm a realist too, no smart person is going to give up 3 first for a QB that's only had 1 season of above .500 play since when were nfl gms smart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlesthought Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: since when were nfl gms smart? Most of them crap the bed but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, nlesthought said: Most of them crap the bed but still remember gotta win now and you kind of dont care what little you leave the next guy with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 You all disgust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, Daimonas said: You all disgust me. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 It’s funny how just a couple games changes everything with some people. People forget Nick played two games earlier this year and were not very good while Carson played MVP ball all year last year. Most people would have been thrilled if the Jaguars traded for Foles mid season and we got a 2nd or so. All of a sudden, admittedly for solid reasoning, we’re ready to throw Caron out? He’s clearly the better QB and has to be the answer going forward. Franchise QBs don’t fall off trees. Carson back to full health is someone we can ride with for the next decade. You can’t get rid of that. Just enjoy the ride Nick is giving us and let him go after. It’s the only way it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 17 hours ago, nlesthought said: Not low...I like Carson I'd like to think I'm a realist too, no smart person is going to give up 3 first for a QB that's only had 1 season of above .500 play We got a 1st and change for an old, underachieving, injury prone Sam Bradford. Carson is already better than Sam ever was. There would absolutely be a team willing to give up that much. Especially in this years QB class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jroc04 said: It’s funny how just a couple games changes everything with some people. People forget Nick played two games earlier this year and were not very good while Carson played MVP ball all year last year. Most people would have been thrilled if the Jaguars traded for Foles mid season and we got a 2nd or so. All of a sudden, admittedly for solid reasoning, we’re ready to throw Caron out? He’s clearly the better QB and has to be the answer going forward. Franchise QBs don’t fall off trees. Carson back to full health is someone we can ride with for the next decade. You can’t get rid of that. Just enjoy the ride Nick is giving us and let him go after. It’s the only way it should be. Say it again for the people in the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlesthought Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 7:57 AM, Art_Vandalay said: We got a 1st and change for an old, underachieving, injury prone Sam Bradford. Carson is already better than Sam ever was. There would absolutely be a team willing to give up that much. Especially in this years QB class. Another reason I don't see Carson being traded. Teams have seen how that played out, Carson is an injury prone young QB with upside. Sam was an underachieving injury prone 28yr old QB who showed flashes in his 14 starts in Philly. The only deal on the table for Foles was to Cleveland for a 2nd. I'm pretty positive they still would've drafted a QB in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 5:41 AM, Jroc04 said: It’s funny how just a couple games changes everything with some people. People forget Nick played two games earlier this year and were not very good while Carson played MVP ball all year last year. Most people would have been thrilled if the Jaguars traded for Foles mid season and we got a 2nd or so. All of a sudden, admittedly for solid reasoning, we’re ready to throw Caron out? He’s clearly the better QB and has to be the answer going forward. Franchise QBs don’t fall off trees. Carson back to full health is someone we can ride with for the next decade. You can’t get rid of that. Just enjoy the ride Nick is giving us and let him go after. It’s the only way it should be. you can't turn your back on a two time superbowl winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: you can't turn your back on a two time superbowl winner You sure can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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