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All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)

Likely Cap Casualties:
Jamie Collins -- 9.25M 
Travis Carrie --  6.2M 

Unlikely Cap Casualties:
Damarious Randall - 9.069M
Joel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM
Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M 

Which way does the wind blow?
JC Tretter - 5.25M
Chris Hubbard - 4.1M 
Chris Smith - ~2.1M
Darren Fells - ~2.3M
Britton Colquitt ~2.7M
Ogbah ~1.5M
Chad Thomas ~150k
Ricardo Louis ~750k
Howard Wilson ~400k

2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV)
E.J Gaines    27 yrs old    4M
Greg Robinson   26 yrs old    790k
Orson Charles    28 yrs old    790k
Breshad Perriman     25 yrs old    705k
Rashard Higgins      24 years old     585k   RFA
BBC   25 years old    540k RFA
Trevon Coley  25 years old   510k ERFA

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My keep list:
bitonio
zeitler
tretter
fells
colquitt
ogbah
thomas
higgins
bbc
coley

my extend list pending reasonable agents:
randall
robinson
perriman

cant decide:
hubbard
gaines
charles

My notable cut list:
collins
carrie
smith
louis
wilson

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8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)

Likely Cap Casualties:
Jamie Collins -- 9.25M 
Travis Carrie --  6.2M 

Carrie is almost assuredly gone, no issue there.  

Collins is tough for me.  Yes he’s overpaid, no doubt there.  But he’s been a starter and played reasonably well.  When he’s morivated he’s all over the place.  I guess imo we don’t need the cap space yet and he’s someone who at this point is helping us win games.  I’d keep him.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Unlikely Cap Casualties:
Damarious Randall - 9.069M
Joel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM
Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M 

I’d be pissed if all 3 aren’t here next year.  Randall needs extended imo.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Which way does the wind blow?
JC Tretter - 5.25M
Chris Hubbard - 4.1M 

Same logic as Collins tbh, no need to cut them until they’re no longer one of the 46 best we have.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Chris Smith - ~2.1M
Darren Fells - ~2.3M

These two are easy, they’re here unless we find someone better.  Their salaries are insignificant at this point.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Britton Colquitt ~2.7M
Ogbah ~1.5M

Id be pissed if we cut either of these dudes.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Chad Thomas ~150k
Ricardo Louis ~750k
Howard Wilson ~400k

All have an uphill battle at this point.  Thomas may be the most likely to make it due to being Dorsey’s guy, but he’s gonna have to show something.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV)
E.J Gaines    27 yrs old    4M

If he comes cheap, yeah.  Seems pretty replaceable.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Greg Robinson   26 yrs old    790

Unless someone falls falls in love with him and offers him a large contract, I’d hope so, he’s played well and should be relatively cheap.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Orson Charles    28 yrs old    790k

He’d better be, I love this dude.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Breshad Perriman     25 yrs old    705k
Rashard Higgins      24 years old     585k   RFA

Resign both imo, Higgins without question.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

BBC   25 years old    540k RFA

Depends what kinds of offers he gets, but ideally yes, on a cheap deal.  He’s a decent CB and good depth at FS.

8 minutes ago, mistakey said:

Trevon Coley  25 years old   510k ERFA

Perhaps on a 1 year deal, see if someone can beat him out in camp. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not though.

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We keep carrie imo because he hasn't been awful, and he stay healthy, our only top 4 corner to not miss a game. 

Collins I am on the fence about. 

Keep tretter, bit, zeitler. 

Extend Robinson, perriman, randall at top 5 fs money.

Keep everyone if we can, even tyrod if he takes a cheapish deal 5 million  per year for 2 years.

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since cap space can be rolled over - dont necessarily think of it as needing cap space now- but think of it as needing some percentage of cap space when we need to resign baker mayfield to the largest contract ever in 4 years, a long with denzel and chubb in the same year.

i think with Kirksey coming back and the emergence of Avery i think Collins is an easy cut.
I love tretter, im just thinking they may go "get corbett" in there
 

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We may be able to trade Collins for a 2021 7th. Profit. 

Dont know why anyone would want to cut carrie, he has been generally better than replacement level and he has stayed healthy at a position that gets a lt injury. 

It is why o want BBC to stay, he is above average but doesnt get hurt. 

 

Our best 2 corners ward and mitch will play about a season  between them.

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11 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

We may be able to trade Collins for a 2021 7th. Profit. 

Dont know why anyone would want to cut carrie, he has been generally better than replacement level and he has stayed healthy at a position that gets a lt injury. 

It is why o want BBC to stay, he is above average but doesnt get hurt. 

 

Our best 2 corners ward and mitch will play about a season  between them.

is he 6M above replacement level

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16 minutes ago, mistakey said:

is he 6M above replacement level

I agree he is overpaid, I just think he is better than a street player and we dont need to cut him. 

I'd keep him for another year. 

He has been solid at times. Also a dpi/holding machine.

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I would expect most of those guys to be kept.  Collins and Carrie can be cut, but only after we find someone as good or better.

I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley.  He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo.  He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly.

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2 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said:

 

I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley.  He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo.  He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly.

To me coley is a decent 4th string dt. Price has looked better in limited snaps sp I'd rather keep hin going forward.

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20 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said:

I would expect most of those guys to be kept.  Collins and Carrie can be cut, but only after we find someone as good or better.

I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley.  He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo.  He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly.

sure, but ERFA should be about the same price and basically ERFA has no rights.  gotta think coley stays

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2 hours ago, mistakey said:

All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)

Likely Cap Casualties:
Jamie Collins -- 9.25M 
Travis Carrie --  6.2M 


Unlikely Cap Casualties:
Damarious Randall - 9.069M
Joel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM
Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M 


Which way does the wind blow?
JC Tretter - 5.25M
Chris Hubbard - 4.1M 

Chris Smith - ~2.1M
Darren Fells - ~2.3M

Britton Colquitt ~2.7M
Ogbah ~1.5M
Chad Thomas ~150k

Ricardo Louis ~750k
Howard Wilson ~400k


2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV)
E.J Gaines    27 yrs old    4M
Greg Robinson   26 yrs old    790k
Orson Charles    28 yrs old    790k
Breshad Perriman     25 yrs old    705k
Rashard Higgins      24 years old     585k   RFA
BBC   25 years old    540k RFA
Trevon Coley  25 years old   510k ERFA

Keep green, let red go.

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