mistakey Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)Likely Cap Casualties: Jamie Collins -- 9.25M Travis Carrie -- 6.2M Unlikely Cap Casualties: Damarious Randall - 9.069M Joel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M Which way does the wind blow? JC Tretter - 5.25M Chris Hubbard - 4.1M Chris Smith - ~2.1M Darren Fells - ~2.3M Britton Colquitt ~2.7M Ogbah ~1.5M Chad Thomas ~150k Ricardo Louis ~750k Howard Wilson ~400k2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV) E.J Gaines 27 yrs old 4M Greg Robinson 26 yrs old 790k Orson Charles 28 yrs old 790k Breshad Perriman 25 yrs old 705k Rashard Higgins 24 years old 585k RFA BBC 25 years old 540k RFA Trevon Coley 25 years old 510k ERFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 My keep list: bitonio zeitler tretter fells colquitt ogbah thomas higgins bbc coley my extend list pending reasonable agents: randall robinson perriman cant decide: hubbard gaines charles My notable cut list: collins carrie smith louis wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)Likely Cap Casualties: Jamie Collins -- 9.25M Travis Carrie -- 6.2M Carrie is almost assuredly gone, no issue there. Collins is tough for me. Yes he’s overpaid, no doubt there. But he’s been a starter and played reasonably well. When he’s morivated he’s all over the place. I guess imo we don’t need the cap space yet and he’s someone who at this point is helping us win games. I’d keep him. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Unlikely Cap Casualties: Damarious Randall - 9.069M Joel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M I’d be pissed if all 3 aren’t here next year. Randall needs extended imo. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Which way does the wind blow? JC Tretter - 5.25M Chris Hubbard - 4.1M Same logic as Collins tbh, no need to cut them until they’re no longer one of the 46 best we have. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Chris Smith - ~2.1M Darren Fells - ~2.3M These two are easy, they’re here unless we find someone better. Their salaries are insignificant at this point. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Britton Colquitt ~2.7M Ogbah ~1.5M Id be pissed if we cut either of these dudes. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Chad Thomas ~150k Ricardo Louis ~750k Howard Wilson ~400k All have an uphill battle at this point. Thomas may be the most likely to make it due to being Dorsey’s guy, but he’s gonna have to show something. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: 2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV) E.J Gaines 27 yrs old 4M If he comes cheap, yeah. Seems pretty replaceable. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Greg Robinson 26 yrs old 790 Unless someone falls falls in love with him and offers him a large contract, I’d hope so, he’s played well and should be relatively cheap. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Orson Charles 28 yrs old 790k He’d better be, I love this dude. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Breshad Perriman 25 yrs old 705k Rashard Higgins 24 years old 585k RFA Resign both imo, Higgins without question. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: BBC 25 years old 540k RFA Depends what kinds of offers he gets, but ideally yes, on a cheap deal. He’s a decent CB and good depth at FS. 8 minutes ago, mistakey said: Trevon Coley 25 years old 510k ERFA Perhaps on a 1 year deal, see if someone can beat him out in camp. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 We keep carrie imo because he hasn't been awful, and he stay healthy, our only top 4 corner to not miss a game. Collins I am on the fence about. Keep tretter, bit, zeitler. Extend Robinson, perriman, randall at top 5 fs money. Keep everyone if we can, even tyrod if he takes a cheapish deal 5 million per year for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 since cap space can be rolled over - dont necessarily think of it as needing cap space now- but think of it as needing some percentage of cap space when we need to resign baker mayfield to the largest contract ever in 4 years, a long with denzel and chubb in the same year. i think with Kirksey coming back and the emergence of Avery i think Collins is an easy cut. I love tretter, im just thinking they may go "get corbett" in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 We may be able to trade Collins for a 2021 7th. Profit. Dont know why anyone would want to cut carrie, he has been generally better than replacement level and he has stayed healthy at a position that gets a lt injury. It is why o want BBC to stay, he is above average but doesnt get hurt. Our best 2 corners ward and mitch will play about a season between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: We may be able to trade Collins for a 2021 7th. Profit. Dont know why anyone would want to cut carrie, he has been generally better than replacement level and he has stayed healthy at a position that gets a lt injury. It is why o want BBC to stay, he is above average but doesnt get hurt. Our best 2 corners ward and mitch will play about a season between them. is he 6M above replacement level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, mistakey said: is he 6M above replacement level I agree he is overpaid, I just think he is better than a street player and we dont need to cut him. I'd keep him for another year. He has been solid at times. Also a dpi/holding machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I would expect most of those guys to be kept. Collins and Carrie can be cut, but only after we find someone as good or better. I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley. He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo. He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley. He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo. He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly. To me coley is a decent 4th string dt. Price has looked better in limited snaps sp I'd rather keep hin going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: I would expect most of those guys to be kept. Collins and Carrie can be cut, but only after we find someone as good or better. I'll be very disappointed if we can't find someone better than Coley. He's probably our weakest defensive starter imo. He's playing A LOT of snaps this year, and I'd like to see that go down significantly. sure, but ERFA should be about the same price and basically ERFA has no rights. gotta think coley stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieCamp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just now, mistakey said: sure, but ERFA should be about the same price and basically ERFA has no rights. gotta think coley stays You're probably right. I just hope he's a backup and not a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said: You're probably right. I just hope he's a backup and not a starter. If he’s a starter Dorsey whiffed this off-season. Between the draft and FA I can’t seen not improving his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, mistakey said: All numbers are NET gain by cutting (cap hit - dead cap)Likely Cap Casualties:Jamie Collins -- 9.25M Travis Carrie -- 6.2M Unlikely Cap Casualties:Damarious Randall - 9.069MJoel Bitonio -- 5.6ishM Kevin Zeitler - 1.7M Which way does the wind blow?JC Tretter - 5.25M Chris Hubbard - 4.1M Chris Smith - ~2.1M Darren Fells - ~2.3MBritton Colquitt ~2.7M Ogbah ~1.5M Chad Thomas ~150kRicardo Louis ~750k Howard Wilson ~400k2019 Free Agents (all numbers are 2018 AAV)E.J Gaines 27 yrs old 4MGreg Robinson 26 yrs old 790kOrson Charles 28 yrs old 790kBreshad Perriman 25 yrs old 705k Rashard Higgins 24 years old 585k RFA BBC 25 years old 540k RFA Trevon Coley 25 years old 510k ERFA Keep green, let red go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 One more mf disrespects Orson Charles and ima tell ‘em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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