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3 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

All of our success and failure can't go straight back to the QB.

But it does. The only team in recent memory that won a super bowl without really good QB play was Peyton Manning's last year with the Broncos. Foles had an unreal run, Flacco and Eli played tremendous in the playoffs. Them you look at guys like Brady, Brees, and Wilson. You could say that Wilson and Roethlisberger were game managers when they won super bowls, but that's what their teams needed.

Kirk Cousins is not a game manager, and he is also not a QB that can carry a team and win when the defense isn't on. Barring some sort of crazy turnaround from him or pulling a crazy playoff run out of his butt (ala Flacco), I don't believe he is the one to bring us our first Lombardi.

It's not all on the QB, but if he doesn't significantly raise his level of play then we are in trouble.

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18 minutes ago, vikestyle said:

But it does. The only team in recent memory that won a super bowl without really good QB play was Peyton Manning's last year with the Broncos. Foles had an unreal run, Flacco and Eli played tremendous in the playoffs. Them you look at guys like Brady, Brees, and Wilson. You could say that Wilson and Roethlisberger were game managers when they won super bowls, but that's what their teams needed.

Kirk Cousins is not a game manager, and he is also not a QB that can carry a team and win when the defense isn't on. Barring some sort of crazy turnaround from him or pulling a crazy playoff run out of his butt (ala Flacco), I don't believe he is the one to bring us our first Lombardi.

It's not all on the QB, but if he doesn't significantly raise his level of play then we are in trouble.

Kirk Cousins is supposed to be a game manager though. We didn't see it with JDF but it was clear that was supposed to be his role with Stefanski in his limited time as OC.

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9 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said:

Kirk Cousins is supposed to be a game manager though. We didn't see it with JDF but it was clear that was supposed to be his role with Stefanski in his limited time as OC.

It's great if he can become that, but with his penchant for turning the ball over it is not very conducive to the "game manager" style of play.

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Eli is a turnover machine but played great in the playoffs.

Maybe it's too late for cousins but Foles, Flacco, and Eli X2 stepped up in the playoffs. Whose to say that cousins can't

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On 1/2/2019 at 10:09 AM, wcblack34 said:

And he did it for less money and without a 3 year guarantee. 

And they'd be looking for a QB again this year. With the 18th pick and who to choose among Case or others? 

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On 12/31/2018 at 7:42 AM, wcblack34 said:

Case got the same team to the NFCCG. Cousins got us a seat on the couch.  Ponder and Cousins were both objectively terrible moves. One was a reach, and the other had a verifiable history of being meh. Plus history and football economics were against the signing from the very beginning. But cool. We tried. And when his contract is up in 2 more years, we'll be closer to a rebuild than a rebound. 

I would say Shumar got us to the NFCCG. Just my 2cents.

 

Now getting back to to thread. I would say Richardson then Barr if money works if not then just Richardson. Tender Harris with a 2nd round. Also try to get Robinson back cheap to compete for the 3rd WR spot plus he has a good connection with Cousins. And then Bailey and Easton to a prove it deals.

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