SemperFeist Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gnat Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 17 hours ago, SemperFeist said: So with that base salary, he'll be offsetting a salary of $500k, so that means he's eating up $350,000 extra cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, The Gnat said: So with that base salary, he'll be offsetting a salary of $500k, so that means he's eating up $350,000 extra cap space. I haven't seen enough details to know if this is right or wrong. It depends on how the incentives will be accounted for. Will they be considered, under the CBA definition, likely to be earned or not likely to be earned? We'll need more information on what those incentives are to really know how much cap space he'll take up. I presume one of the media outlets will get their hands on the contract soon enough and report these details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Vikings signed a couple of AAF DB's today. https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-sign-cb-duke-thomas-and-s-derron-smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbroy45 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Think there's a chance they only carry 2 QBs this year? Camp contest for the backup spot between Mannion and Sloter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbroy45 said: Think there's a chance they only carry 2 QBs this year? Camp contest for the backup spot between Mannion and Sloter? I doubt it. I think 3 is a safe assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Zimmer has always had 3 QBs, so I doubt that they only go with 2. I like this move with Mannion. He’ll provide legit competition with Sloter for the #2 spot. I can also see the team drafting a QB in the later rounds, if one they like is available (Brett Rypien 🤞). 1. Kirk Cousins 2. Kyle Sloter/Sean Mannion 3. Rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Robbroy45 said: Think there's a chance they only carry 2 QBs this year? Camp contest for the backup spot between Mannion and Sloter? Yeah, of course there is a chance they'll only carry two. I wouldn't say it is very likely. As Mr Vikingsrule said, I would assume that there will be three. The fact that the Vikings under Zimmer have a history that includes just two QBs on the active roster at the start of a season certainly points to the possibility of them doing it again, but I just think it is less likely this year. It wasn't long before Bradford got hurt and the team activated Kyle Sloter from the practice squad to bring their stable of QBs back to two active healthy arms in 2017. I don't recall if they signed another guy to the practice squad at that time. I think it is safe to assume that if the Vikings only go with two on the active 53 there will be another QB on the team with the practice squad at the start of the season. The departure of Marcus Sherels makes it even less likely the team feels pinched for that extra roster spot as they'll likely have backups from offense or defense filling his roles rather than the fourth ST specialist that Sherels has been. With just three ST specialists on the team they'll be able to add a positional player they haven't been activating already. That might not mean activating the third QB, but they'll still want one on the team if for no other reason to have another arm in practice running the scout team so the backup QB can have some time to prepare for the game in case they are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Signing Sean Mannion is not bad because he was cheap but really why, Sloter is better than him and has way more upside. Most likely Mannion ends up being the 3rd QB on the roster no the 2nd. They could have apparently got Landry Jones for less money than Mannion, I would take Jones any day over Mannion. Also could have got Tyler Bray which I would not have minded or Blake Bortles for cheap at $1 million for one year just a little over what Mannion got. Heck they could have got Taylor Heinicke for less than Mannion and I would take Heinicke over him as well. But again in the long term it should not really matter since Sloter should be the 2nd guy anyway. With them signing Mannion and having Sloter no way they draft a QB, no way that would be kind of foolish I feel, maybe a UDFA but that is about it, no way you draft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ozzy said: With them signing Mannion and having Sloter no way they draft a QB, no way that would be kind of foolish I feel, maybe a UDFA but that is about it, no way you draft one. Sean Mannion and Kyle Sloter should never prevent you from drafting a QB you like. If a guy like Daniel Jones or Will Grier fall to the Vikings in a spot where you deem them to be good value, and you think they have starter/high caliber backup potential, you take them and send Sloter or Mannion on their merry way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Sean Mannion isn’t even a lock to make the roster. You absolutely draft a QB, if there’s one you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Sean Mannion and Kyle Sloter should never prevent you from drafting a QB you like. If a guy like Daniel Jones or Will Grier fall to the Vikings in a spot where you deem them to be good value, and you think they have starter/high caliber backup potential, you take them and send Sloter or Mannion on their merry way. Maybe but when you paid a certain someone $84 Million guaranteed you better have some faith in the freaking dude. If they lack that much faith in him as a player they clearly should have never gave him that much money and I do not think they should have, he is not worth it but will see. Just now, SemperFeist said: Sean Mannion isn’t even a lock to make the roster. You absolutely draft a QB, if there’s one you like. Maybe but again if the Vikings have that little faith in freaking Kirk that they pick a QB in the first three rounds of this years draft, obviously they picked the wrong guy then. Even picking a QB in the 4th or 5th round I would question, 6th or 7th maybe but more likely UDFA if they want just another guy to bring in and see what he can do. The Vikings have too many needs to spend a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick or beyond on a freaking QB especially after signing Mannion and over paying for him a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Sean Mannion isn’t even a lock to make the roster. You absolutely draft a QB, if there’s one you like. In the context of this team, I want two starters out of the first three picks, picking a QB in round 1 or 2 makes that a lot less likely (since not every pick is going to work out, even in the first three rounds). IMO, they need at least one new IOL, and likely one new DL (and really, two new IOL). I'm not sure how that happens if you take a QB in round 1 ..... And, no, I'm not saying "If Andrew Luck was there you wouldn't draft him"....there is no Andrew Luck in this draft, at least not with the pre-draft certainty he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 How does drafting a developmental QB indicate a lack of faith in Cousins? Cousins is under contract for two more seasons, at which point he’ll be 32 and likely looking for another significant contract. And if Cousins doesn’t get us where we want to go I’d rather have a 24 year old QB on a rookie contract who the team would know what they have. Rather than pay another $25M+ contract for a 32 year old QB, find ourselves in the same situation as we had in 2018, or scramble to find/rely on a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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