Castiron Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 11:16 AM, Scout said: If healthy, where would you put Tannehill? On the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Going to give it a go, but don't usually like ranking individuals. 1. Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Ben Roethlisberger 4. Drew Brees 5. Matt Ryan 6. Andrew Luck 7. Derek Carr 8. Russell Wilson 9. Philip Rivers 10. Cam Newton 11. Carson Palmer 12. Matthew Stafford 13. Jameis Winston 14. Joe Flacco 15. Andy Dalton 16. Kirk Cousins 17. Alex Smith 18. Marcus Mariota 19. Dak Prescott 20. Eli Manning 21. Carson Wentz 22. Tyrod Taylor 23. Sam Bradford 24. Jay Cutler 25. Trevor Siemian 26. Mike Glennon 27. Josh McCown 28. Jared Goff 29. Blake Bortles 30. Tom Savage 31. Brian Hoyer 32. DeShone Kizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobikus Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1. Rodgers 2. Brady 3. Brees 4. Ryan 5. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I am assuming everybody is healthy. 1. Tom Brady - no competition as of yet but is getting up in age 2. Aaron Rodgers - has it all but needs another SB to cement this position 3. Drew Brees - could be slipping with age 4. Ben Roethlisberger - without injuries, would be higher 5. Andrew Luck - obviously, may never play again, sad!!! 6. Cam Newton - As those above him slip with age, he could move up 7. Matt Ryan - not the greatest arm, but a winner 8. Russell Wilson - touch cookie 9. Eli Manning - could be slipping with age or could still go much higher 10. Philip Rivers - should have accomplished more 11. Derek Carr - just coming into his own 12. Marcus Mariota - Ditto 13. Jameis Winston - Ditto 14 Joe Flacco - looks like he has slide, but higher is still possible 15. Carson Palmer - age and injuries are taking their toll 16. Alex Smith - a winner and maybe should rank much higher because of it 17. Kirk Cousins - a winner so far 18. Andy Dalton - a winner so far, but arm is weak 19. Matthew Stafford - 51-53 overall, great physical talent, but where are the wins? 20. Dak Prescott - Product of a great running team with a superb OL, another Alex Smith 21. Carson Wentz - Only his second year, so we will learn a lot more about him in the next 2 22. Sam Bradford - Maxed out 23. Jared Goff - see Wentz 24. Mitch Trubisky - a rookie, so who knows 25. Deshaun Watson - Ditto 26. Tyrod Taylor - a backup QB who is a starter by accident 27. Jay Cutler Maxed out 28. Trevor Siemian - see Taylor 29. Brian Hoyer - solid career backup 30. Josh McCown - Ditto 31. Tom Savage - see Taylor if he even starts 32. Mike Glennon - career backup 33. DeShone Kizer - career backup who could be forced to start as a rookie for hopeless Browns, ugh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazilianguy Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 - Aaron Rodgers - not the most popular choice but his skillset is so complete in the QB position that I think he translates better to different environments than Tom Brady. 2 - Tom Brady - The GOAT that is still clearly above every QB in the league not named Rodgers. 3 - Drew Brees - The more I look into his 2016 season, the more reason I believe he's clearly the 3rd best QB in the league. Still building his argument for GOAT accuracy and volume passing. 4 - Russell Wilson - Homer pick? Maybe. PFF has him as the highest individual value in the league after a season where he battled three different injuries, the least experienced and worst pass blocking OL in the league, and probably the unhealthiest, most inconsistent RB group in the league. Check out his passing masterclass put under these conditions last season against the Jets, the Bills, the Panthers, the Eagles, and even, why not, against the Falcons in the playoffs. Then you go and check the last game the Patriots lost in Boston. Ever since he came to this league he's been one of most pressured QBs in the league, one of the best QB under pressure and arguably the most dynamic QB and best deep passer in the game. I think more people should realize how amazing thid guy is from the pocket as a pure passer - too bad he hasn't had many clean pockets since he entered the league. 5 - Ben Roethlisberger - He has the best offensive supporting cast in the league and... No drama, made it the best offense in the league. 6 - Matt Ryan - After rightfully claiming the MVP award last season, and a xlear case for being as high as 3rd in this rankings, I still have doubts he can consistently deliver a top 5 QB performance without Kyle Shanahan and a less than an excellent offensive supporting cast. 7 - Andrew Luck - He's faced severe injuries in the past few years, right when he was starting to justify his predraft hype but I still would take his healthy presence and skill over the likes of Derek Carr, Cam Newton, Phillip Rivers Matthew Stafford and Marcus Mariota. Grit, poise and arm talent are strong with this one. 8 - Derek Carr - Similarly to Big Ben: no drama, when given a great supporting cast he delivered a great offense. Love what he does in thr clutch and his turnover free style. What I question about him is his performance when put under the test against top level defenses and lack of explosive playmaking. He's riser, I predict he'll end the season as a clear cut top 5 QB. 9 - Phillip Rivers - He's on decline but still a clear top 10 QB. 10 - Cam Newton - The most dangerous redzone and third down QB (the two most important situations imo for gauging QB performance) but he has been wildly inconsistent as a passer ever since he came into this league. 11 - Matthew Stafford - He is starting to live up to the 1st round pick investment the Lions made. He's imo a SB caliber QB and one of the better pure passer under pressure in the league. He's a riser imo. 12 - Marcus Mariota - He's gonna have big season and imo has everything around him in Tenessee in the right place to leap over half the players ahead of him currently. 13 - Kirk Cousins - If he keeps his past two seasons performances, get the Redskins to the playoffs and compete consistently against top teams, it'll be tough to keep this guy away from top 5 discussions. 14 - Dak Prescott - Historic rookie season in Dallas and remind me of a less elusive Russel Wilson, with slightly less arm talent. His decision making has been outstanding for his experience level. He's played like a true veteran and his development as a leader in Dallad is something I'm very eager to follow. 15 - Carson Palmer - I hope he has a comeback season. His 2015 season was a joy to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1. Brady 2. Brees 3. Rodgers 4. Ryan 5. Ben 6. Carr 7. Wilson 8. Mariota 9. Winston 10. Stafford 11. Manning 12. Newton 13. Luck 14. Cousins 15. Prescott 16. Rivers 17. Flacco 18. Dalton 19. Smith 20. Palmer 21. Goff 22. Wentz 23. Bradford 24. Taylor 25. Cutler 26. Bortles 27-32. The rest (Glennon/Trubisky, Kizer, Savage, McCown, Siemian, Hoyer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I wish Christian Hackenberg was starting. They we could have great hypotheticals like "Do the GSOT Rams or 2000 Ravens make the playoffs with Hack as their QB?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwiftPride Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/8/2017 at 0:30 PM, Bullet Club said: I wish Christian Hackenberg was starting. They we could have great hypotheticals like "Do the GSOT Rams or 2000 Ravens make the playoffs with Hack as their QB?". Hackenberg couldn't hit the sky if he was flying an airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 10:52 AM, Crickett said: 27. Jared Goff, Los Angeles Rams So, I'm just going to apologize to Rams for this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 lol the people putting Goff and Tyrod Taylor over Wentz. Do you even football bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, EaglesPeteC said: lol the people putting Goff and Tyrod Taylor over Wentz. Do you even football bro? Well not sure why Goff is ahead of him. But so far in their careers Tyrod is better than Wentz. Wentz obviously has more upside and will pass Tyrod soon enough most likely but at this point in their careers Tyrod is easily the better player. Limits the turnover a better and by far the better of the two as a runner. Wentz had 18TDs and 16TOs while Tyrod 23TDs and 8TOs... Tyrod is the better player until Wentz potential comes through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, EaglesPeteC said: lol the people putting Goff and Tyrod Taylor over Wentz. Do you even football bro? Good argument...especially the lol. Lets not act like Wentz has proven to be anything special. Yes, Wentz had a better rookie year than Goff, and going forward he will almost definitely be better than Tyrod Taylor.....but Goff looked good today and both are only going into their 2nd year, and in terms of what they have already shown in their careers, Wentz hasnt proven to be notably better than Tyrod Taylor YET. So while I would rank Wentz higher than both RIGHT NOW...its not like they have no argument whatsoever like you imply. And besides which....only like 4 people in this thread put either of those two above Wentz, and its usually Tyrod by a spot or two. Youre gonna get sore about THAT? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 8/23/2017 at 10:58 AM, FourThreeMafia said: 1. Tom Brady (Marginally talented player that just so happens to be the GOAT. Thanks Belichick) 2. Aaron Rodgers (Probably the best overall QB ever, talent wise) 3. Drew Brees (Getting underrated on here....still definitely top 3 IMO) 4.Ben Roethlisberger (Staple behind the top 3) 5. Matt Ryan (Consistently good QB that had an elite year in 2016) 6.Russell Wilson (Really good, but lacking consistency the last 2 years or so) 7.Philip Rivers (Bad year last year, but I still think he is top 5 caliber) 8. Andrew Luck (Very good, but Im still not sure where to put him) 9. Derek Carr (I think he jumps into the top 4 or 5 this year) 10.Matthew Stafford - (Very underrated the last two years) 11.Eli Manning (Good QB....shown more consistency the last couple years) 12.Cam Newton (What Cam are we getting? Obviously hugely talented, but I dont entirely trust him as a passer). 13. Kirk Cousins (Part of me wants to put him top 10, but I need another year. This isnt a bad spot IMO) 14. Marcus Mariota (Still has alot to show, but I like him slightly more than Jameis right now) 15. Jameis Winston (Heading in the right direction, but needs to get more consistent week to week) 16. Andy Dalton (Solid QB, but limited) 17.Alex Smith (Solid QB, but limited) 18.Dak Prescott (I dont like judging QBs based on one year, but he gets this by default for now. He;ll be top 10 next year IMO) 19.Joe Flacco (I dont even know, honestly. Just okay). 20.Carson Palmer (Always somewhat overrated IMO....going downhill, but still decent, I guess.) 21. Sam Bradford (Could be slightly higher, I guess, but I think he is just meh) 22. Carson Wentz (Rising, for sure, but this is fine for now) 23 .Tyrod Taylor (Just kinda there) 24.Blake Bortles (On his last legs) 25. Jay Cutler (Not sure where he is at, so this is the highest I can put him) 26. Trevor Siemian (Meh) 27. Brian Hoyer (Ugh) 28. Josh McCown (Why?) 29.Mike Glennon (Shouldnt be starting) 30. Tom Savage (Okay...) 31. Jared Goff (I would take him over the guys ranked 23-30 due to upside, but is he better? I dont know....yet). 32. DeShone Kizer (By default....has yet to prove anything) Was going to come here and post my list but this is pretty much what I would have. Rodgers 1, Brady 2, and Flacco a tad higher would be my only changes of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 24/08/2017 at 10:02 AM, Hunter2_1 said: So yeah, he doesn't make your number one spot. The apparent greatest QB of all time isn't even the best in current NFL... I think Tom Brady is the best QB of all time..........probably. However, he clearly isn't the top QB in the league at this moment in time. That's no slight on Brady, just the way of the world and father time. He's been the best but as of right now he isn't and he isn't getting better past this point. It will be very interesting to revisit the rankings later in the season with more information to judge, Rodgers looks the clear #1 at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward4HOF Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 10:52 AM, Crickett said: 11. Phillip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers 12. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers You want to be different and have Ben ranked 5-8 slots lower than everyone else on this thread, and well, likely 99% of the NFL fans around the world, then that's your prerogative. Not explaining one iota WHY you ranked him this low just further proves how 'trollish' this list is, because I'm sure you've just been itching for a nibble. Well, ok, I'll bite, but I'm not even going to argue that point; I'm going to let that flap in the wind as is. What I WOULD like to hear, however, is your explanation for how a QB that has led the league 2 of the last 3 years in INTs is ranked higher than Ben, who has led the league 2 of the last 3 years in YPG. How a QB that, when compiling the last 3 years worth of %s/Ratings...Comp, TD, INT, Y/A, AY/A, YPG, QBR, Rating, etc., Ben leads in EVERY SINGLE category. Do you some how expect the QB that is 3 months older than the other to find the 'fountain of youth' while the other declines? Now, stats are not everything, but after 3 years, they sure do provide one heck of a trend analysis point. And this isn't something I am attempting to debate; I simply would love to know what your rationale was, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.