incognito_man Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, cannondale said: You feel black and white about it - fine by me. I don't agree and it's not worth the argument at this point Lame argument. If someone disagrees with you it's not because they see things in black and white and you somehow don't. This is a results-driven league. It's inconsistent for anyone to have wanted Capers and MM gone but want to retain Whitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: McDaniels is a lock for Minnesota next year. Is Cousins good enough for him ? His "Rodgers or nothing" has me wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Lame argument. If someone disagrees with you it's not because they see things in black and white and you somehow don't. This is a results-driven league. It's inconsistent for anyone to have wanted Capers and MM gone but want to retain Whitt. If someone thinks the CB play is strictly on the CB coach - that's black and white If someone thinks the CB play can be on the CB coach / DC / GM - that's not as black and white. If Hyde and Hayward aren't enough proof to muddy the waters, I got nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: If someone thinks the CB play is strictly on the CB coach - that's black and white If someone thinks the CB play can be on the CB coach / DC / GM - that's not as black and white If someone thinks the the team play is strictly on the head coach - that's black and white, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_NFLs_GG Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, cannondale said: Is Cousins good enough for him ? His "Rodgers or nothing" has me wondering Cousins is not good enough. He wants to succeed if he leaves or he is staying to replace BB in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: If someone thinks the the team play is strictly on the head coach - that's black and white, too. That's apples to oranges and you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, cannondale said: That's apples to oranges and you know it It's not at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: It's not at all... Not taking the bait - it's just not that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 hours ago, cannondale said: Some fans can't think that deep I'd agree that some fans have an overly simplistic view of the situation, and can't see anything beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, cannondale said: Not taking the bait - it's just not that important. You mean you can't defend your rationale that some coaches are responsible for their product but others are not, but some of it is black and white but some isn't. And your only explanation is "apples and oranges". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, hitnhope said: And yet we watched a group of defensive backs bust coverage consistently for years. We watched a group be a sieve against the pass, tackle poorly, and be on the lower end of the spectrum in takeaways. Maybe it is other fans not thinking deep enough that they believe a few public words of (not necessarily an open and honest assessment) would seem to me thinking tha lacks depth. Are you saying you think it's reasonable to think that maybe the never ending busted coverage problems in the secondary may point to a problem with the individuals who were coaching the secondary.? Is that thinking too black and white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, incognito_man said: You mean you can't defend your rationale that some coaches are responsible for their product but others are not, but some of it is black and white but some isn't. And your only explanation is "apples and oranges". Already did to my satisfaction. If you want to prove to me that the CB play was all on Whitt - feel free. I'm done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_NFLs_GG Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Are you saying you think it's reasonable to think that maybe the never ending busted coverage problems in the secondary may point to a problem with the individuals who were coaching the secondary.? Is that thinking too black and white? Whitt was good at teaching individual technique but not coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, cannondale said: Already did to my satisfaction. If you want to prove to me that the CB play was all on Whitt - feel free. I'm done with it. Pretty clearly my point has always been this is a results driven league so anyone in favor of firing other coaches for lackluster results should feel similarly about Whitt. All of football contains a million variables. Coaches are highly compensated to overcome these. Whitt hasn't recently, his product has been extremely disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Fox_NFLs_GG said: Whitt was good at teaching individual technique but not coverage. That I can agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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