Ragnarok Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ok, but what is it about our roster that is holding us back? Why are we winless? Im trying to learn so that we can make informed decisions going forward. Offensive weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ok, but what is it about our roster that is holding us back? Why are we winless? Im trying to learn so that we can make informed decisions going forward. Go back and read the game threads. For the first two weeks Big Ben was your starter at QB. Some of the games were procedural things as wwhickock was getting used to the league. Suggestions were made and ignored multiple times. It's a subjective league everyone has their own way of deciding the votes. It usually takes a year to fully understand things. What the other guys said too. Last year Portland had Mahomes but had pretty much all #2 weapons on their NFL teams. Edited October 4, 2019 by SirA1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, rackcs said: Tbh my biggest issue with Williamsport, with all due respect, is just not very strong offensively. You guys have good complementary receivers but nobody who I think can necessarily be a #1 guy. LeSean McCoy just isn't a good starter anymore. The OL is solid but with no real elite guys imo. That's just my personal opinion and others may disagree. But that to me is what is holding your team back really. On the OL I would suggest that Charles Leno is top 5 NFL. I'm not arguing your points and agree with your point about the WR and RB (hence the 2 additions at RB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: On the OL I would suggest that Charles Leno is top 5 NFL. I'm not arguing your points and agree with your point about the WR and RB (hence the 2 additions at RB) He was last year. This year not so much. He's already got 5 penalties and a 48.1 rating so far. It happens though. Jessie Bates was awesome for me last year and this year sucks donkey balls, which is why he isn't in my lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, rackcs said: Tbh my biggest issue with Williamsport, with all due respect, is just not very strong offensively. You guys have good complementary receivers but nobody who I think can necessarily be a #1 guy. LeSean McCoy just isn't a good starter anymore. The OL is solid but with no real elite guys imo. That's just my personal opinion and others may disagree. But that to me is what is holding your team back really. Fair, the first thing I told Whick is that we have 5 #2/3 WRs, we need a #1. We have a decently good enough OL. A ton of RBs - Not just McCoy, but you saw what Cason could do just last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Offensive weapons. By weapons, you mean WRs? Or do you think our RB stable is also weak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: By weapons, you mean WRs? Or do you think our RB stable is also weak? I think Carson and Henry is a good RB tandem. I mean your WRs and TEs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: By weapons, you mean WRs? Or do you think our RB stable is also weak? You just got two new RB's in the last day. Won't be able to judge them until we see how they are used. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, SirA1 said: He was last year. This year not so much. He's already got 5 penalties and a 48.1 rating so far. It happens though. Jessie Bates was awesome for me last year and this year sucks donkey balls, which is why he isn't in my lineup. Penalties? You're kidding me right? Okay lots of ppl get penalties but he is still one of the best Blocking LTs in the league and that's barely debateable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wwhickok said: Penalties? You're kidding me right? Okay lots of ppl get penalties but he is still one of the best Blocking LTs in the league and that's barely debateable. He's tied for 2nd in Penalties among all OT. Last year he had 5 all year. People who look at OL look at that trust me. I track all of my OL for sacks given up and penalties because it does matter and adjust the OL accordingly. Edited October 4, 2019 by SirA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, SirA1 said: He's tied for 2nd in Penalties among all OT. Last year he had 5 all year. People who look at OL look at that trust me. I track all of my OL for sacks given up and penalties because it does matter. I'm not saying it doesn't matter but you had early used to the argument of penalties to suggest hes not one of the top 5 most talented LTs and that simply isn't a true statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I'm not saying it doesn't matter but you had early used to the argument of penalties to suggest hes not one of the top 5 most talented LTs and that simply isn't a true statement Saying he's a Top 5 LT is also not a True statement though. It's your opinion. It would be like me saying Joe Staley is a Top 5 LT in the league but he's not because he's not playing right now. Edited October 4, 2019 by SirA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, SirA1 said: Saying he's a Top 5 LT is also not a True statement though. It's your opinion. Talent wise? It's true, but yes that's my opinion and it's your opinion that he isnt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Having NOTHING to do with SirA's opinion lol, We are shopping Charles Leno Jr (primarily looking for pick(s) ) We view him as a top LT (not the top LT) in the league. Keep that in mind when you message me, and you will Edited October 4, 2019 by wwhickok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I passed the ******* bar! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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