eagles18 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, showtime said: I keep saying this. When a young QB who is not established in the league gets a season ending injury, you can't just assume he returns to form. We've seen this with Derek Carr. Deshaun Watson was electric as a rookie and at times looked unstoppable - He sure didn't look that way this year. Wentz was the MVP front runner and while he was good this year, it wasn't like his MVP caliber season. AND Wentz got hurt again this season. And, the Eagles team has been EXTREMELY successful without Carson Wentz. I'm not saying Wentz sucks and he's not worth trading for or that the Eagles should even consider trading him. I'm just saying, this may not be all it's cracked up to be. what about his stats this year tho? that accounts for nothing? statistically, he has played better then he did last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 If Foles somehow leads the Eagles to another SB win, Wentz SHOULD be done as their starting QB.. I mean c'mon it'd be laughable to keep putting Foles on the bench. Plenty of teams would trade for Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Well, I hope I made it clear that I do not think he would be traded in any circumstance. I was just humouring the OP. I think even if Foles won another SB, you keep Wentz. How do you justify it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, eagles18 said: what about his stats this year tho? that accounts for nothing? statistically, he has played better then he did last year It counts in a trade offer. But in terms of results. Foles results speak for themselves. Wentz has to prove he can even make it a full season let alone win the SB like Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I don't even really care about Wentz. I just love the idea of Nick Foles somehow guiding the Eagles of all teams to a second ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The Eagles shouldnt even entertain trading Wentz. Wentz has shown when he is healthy he is capable of playing at an MVP level and leading the Eagles to being the best team in football. I get it that the best ability is availability and that has been the knock on Wentz even in college but to give up on him for Foles is crazy. Foles is doing what in an ideal world a backup QB should do. Thats win games in a pinch in place of the starting QB. If Foles played 16 games this season, would the Eagles be in the playoffs? Did people forget the Eagles didnt look so good when Foles started the season and he had all offseason and the preseason to get sharp and still started the season badly. Ill sum it up like this, the Eagles were fortunate the Falcons continued their redzone woes in Week 1. The Eagles was fortunate Natson fumbled and then Goff couldnt complete a pass in the endzone in Week 15. The Eagles was fortunate the Texans couldnt finish the comeback in Week 16. The Eagles was fortunate Parky missed the FG in the Wild Card Round. Like legit the Eagles was barely hanging on to those wins. Last season when Wentz was healthy the Eagles was blowing teams out. Their point differential was either the best or amongst the best. I know people are going to point to Wentz struggles this season. I dont think people truly understand how bad of an injury Wentz had to come back from. No way he was going to be close to the level he was last season. So if we are going to judge Wentz, do it next season when he is a full season removed from that knee injury. When I think of Foles to his credit he is made for the Eagles. If he goes somewhere else its going to be negative to the Eagles more than a positive to that other team. Same way I viewed Keenum when he left Minnesota to go to Denver. So if Foles goes to another team and he struggles, its not saying Foles was bad all along it just says his situation with the Eagles is perfect and he has thrived there. Make no mistake about it though, Wentz is the guy and I dont care if Foles somehow gets the Eagles another Superbowl title this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Eagles $5$ said: People realize that Foles didn't play well at all last night right?? That's not the question. The question posed was, "If Foles leads the Eagles to another Super Bowl, do they keep him and trade Carson?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: I don't even really care about Wentz. I just love the idea of Nick Foles somehow guiding the Eagles of all teams to a second ring. Disney Land is fixing to meet Freddy Krauger. Foles is going to the Superdome and I believe Kamara said that if they didnt lose to Minnesota last season in the playoffs they was going to beat Philly. Now I personally dont think that wouldve happened because it was Philly year. Thats not the case this season. Kamara and the Saints have the opportunity to now back that up this season in the playoffs. I think they will. By some chance the Eagles beat the Saints, then Ill shake my head and give up lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: I don't think a trade involving Wentz is ever on the cards, BUT, hypothetically.. Drawing a blank after NYG. You want a team with a good draft pick, QB needy and can offer more. So, what do they have, the 6th pick? Send that, Eli and maybe one of their good DBs? Like I said, can't see it from anywhere truth be told. And Eli? if they are dealing Wentz they are all-in on Foles and not paying Eli's contract to be a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: I think another team would immediately come in and blow that offer out the water though. The Eagles may need to sell the farm to keep both. Agreed. If they win the SB and dont trade Wentz, how can they afford to keep Foles? They cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Eagles $5$ said: People realize that Foles didn't play well at all last night right?? ??????? You mean your backup didn't play well against what many thought was one of the greatest defense's of all time? Not that much different then Wentz's game against Washington. And that WAS against Washington and not the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: ??????? You mean your backup didn't play well against what many thought was one of the greatest defense's of all time? Not that much different then Wentz's game against Washington. And that WAS against Washington and not the Bears. Are people talking about this Bears D as one of the greatest of all-time? Dont get me wrong they were the best this year but I didn't think they were in the all-time conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Are people talking about this Bears D as one of the greatest of all-time? Dont get me wrong they were the best this year but I didn't think they were in the all-time conversation Have you been in general and comparison forums for the last few weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Calvert28 said: How do you justify it though? By keeping the better football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Lmao at people saying you get rid of Foles even if he wins a 2nd Super Bowl. It's like a homeless dude getting a 60k a year job offer out of the blue and being like, "Thanks, but I really think someone is gonna come along and give me 100k." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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