coordinator0 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: I can definitely see the argument not to sign Spain or Nelson, but I think it is pretty clear that if the Ravens signed them, they would be upgrades and immediately be put into the starting lineup. That's all I'm saying. Those are the two spots where the Ravens are weakest. No, not Spain. Hurst would still start over him. I don't think the team is giving up on Lewis yet either. Still really hoping an interior lineman is drafted but I'm not real sure the team sees it as a big need. My point is those guys, or guys in that mold, won't cost much. Shouldn't cost much. Use the cap space on an actual good player like Houston, who also plays a position of need on the team. Bisciotti won''t let the team sit on that cap space for a season, especially when they're going to have a bunch next year even after the roster is filled out. Get good players if they're looking at that spot anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: I think he's a competent vet who can run NFL routes, and will likely outperform a 4th round rookie WR. Percentage of offensive plays by Jordy Nelson, with targets. Week 17: 89%, 12 targets Week 16: 79%, 10 targets Week 15: 97%, 8 targets Week 15: 94%, 7 targets Week 14: 91%, 11 targets Week: 13: 90%, 1 target (vs Ravens) I get that you don't want Nelson, but to fabricate data is really not an honorable way to debate. The Raiders played Nelson a lot the last 5 weeks and gave him plenty of targets. He might out perform a 4th round rookie from this class, but what he displayed last season leads me to believe Chris Moore is certainly more capable. And then we’ve got two unknowns that have proven as much in our system as Nelson has in our system, nothing. Hard pass on the vet direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Is Sammy Koch in trouble? They ain't gonna break up the Wolfpac, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think Vedvik is a guy who will get picked up by another team like Will Lutz did. Sam Koch is still one of the best punters (and holders, fwiw) in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think it depends on what Sam Koch has told the FO. If he wants to play 3-4 more seasons, then there is little doubt he could do it, and we might be able to send Vedvik to some hungry team who would be willing to give up a late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 17 hours ago, coordinator0 said: No, not Spain. Hurst would still start over him. I don't think the team is giving up on Lewis yet either. Still really hoping an interior lineman is drafted but I'm not real sure the team sees it as a big need. Fair enough. I think Hurst is a backup swing tackle, not a starter. You start him at LG, then who is the backup OT? That may solve a problem but creates another one. Quote Use the cap space on an actual good player like Houston, who also plays a position of need on the team. Call me crazy but I think the Bowser/Williams could outperform Houston in 2019 and beyond. I'm not big into bringing a guy from a very simple defense where he had limited responsibilities over to the Ravens, I'd rather have the two guys who have been in the system for a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Damn, there goes my last "best case scenario" signing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltimoreRebel Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 years/24 million Seemed we were priced out of this one. Let's go get Ansah? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, baltimoreRebel said: 2 years/24 million Seemed we were priced out of this one. Let's go get Ansah? At this point I'd almost rather go through the draft tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltimoreRebel Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: At this point I'd almost rather go through the draft tbh Nah, we need a veteran. I think Ansah is worth a shot on a 2 year deal. High potential for reward there. I want to draft 2 edge rusher if possible as well. I have all the confidence in the world in Williams and Bowser though, straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, baltimoreRebel said: Nah, we need a veteran. I think Ansah is worth a shot on a 2 year deal. High potential for reward there. I want to draft 2 edge rusher if possible as well. I have all the confidence in the world in Williams and Bowser though, straight up. Why do we need a veteran? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Don't see EDC rushing to the phone...... Some of these guys aren't just trash heap talent, they're poor scheme fits too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlin calling Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 at least Houston is not a Steeler. let them try and fail again at drafting defensive talent in the first rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 9:56 PM, coordinator0 said: No, not Spain. Hurst would still start over him. I don't think the team is giving up on Lewis yet either. Still really hoping an interior lineman is drafted but I'm not real sure the team sees it as a big need. My point is those guys, or guys in that mold, won't cost much. Shouldn't cost much. Use the cap space on an actual good player like Houston, who also plays a position of need on the team. Bisciotti won''t let the team sit on that cap space for a season, especially when they're going to have a bunch next year even after the roster is filled out. Get good players if they're looking at that spot anyways. Why? Now that it rolls over, it's not simply use-it-or-lose-it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 hours ago, sp6488 said: Why? Now that it rolls over, it's not simply use-it-or-lose-it. It's a matter of putting the best team on the field every year. If you have the money/cap space to bring in plus players, why not. Good owners aren't going to sit on their hands when their product can get better and bring more money in. Bisciotti is a good owner. But, now with Houston off the market there isn't one guy to spend a bunch on. Especially those that don't count against the cap. The team might wait on signing someone else until one of their own free agents signs elsewhere. They're not going to lose a 3rd round comp pick for a mid-tier signing. Bethel's contract will count for the formula so the team is down to just the one they're getting for Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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