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Grading Gruden - Year One

How would you rate Gruden's first year?  

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  1. 1. How would you rate Gruden's first year?

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    • B
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    • C
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    • D
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    • F
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The first season under Gruden has come and gone. The initial excitement and nostalgia quickly wore off as we shipped out the face of our franchise and the team struggled mightily. There's no secret our roster lacks serious talent, some to do with the previous regime and some to do with recent acquisitions. All in all, it was a very frustrating but not surprising outcome imo. How would YOU rate Gruden after his first year as Raider HC (and GM really). 

My take: I give him a D. He was dealt a tough hand to begin with but didn't help with some questionable roster moves and coaching hires. Our team showed promise some weeks and completely gave up others. He set us up beautifully for the next number of drafts but also had a big part in shipping out the little talent we had. I am excited about the future of the Raiders but am iffy if Gruden is the guy to ultimately get us there. At the end of the day, I am content with the hire but the term is what scares the hell out of me.

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I think the problem with grading him, is that, we dont and wont ever really know his full plan.
It really seems like this year was about building for the future. 

If he had us as 3 years away from competing , then trading Mack and Cooper makes sense, blah blah blah, if he legit thought we could compete then I have no words lol.

His first Draft Class: (way to early to grade, but): C. . Missing out on James, when it was a major position of need hurts. Miller and Parker need to improve greatly. PJ Hall has shown flashes, but was a reach in the 2nd. Key and Hurst were great pickups, and the only reason this isnt lower. Townsend pick was brutal. The Bryant trade, didnt work out, we traded more than we should have, but I can understand the thought process. 

Offensive Playcalling:  C. found his play calling very strange, the first 3 weeks it did seem like we were aggressively attacking teams weaknesses, which i loved. Rams we knew couldnt cover TEs, then targeted Coop against Den, and Jordy against the Dolphins. It worked well, but seemed to forced. AKA one guy would go off and no one else did anything. After the first 3/4 weeks though,  it seemed like that stopped for a bit, and we went into full rebuild mode. I hope thats what it was, but tough to say. I am hopeful to see what Carr can do year 2 in the system, there is no doubt Carr and Gruden were not always on the same page, so tough to tell if some of the calls were audibles at the line.

Fielding the team: D - How Conley and KJ didnt start the season is mind blowing to me. Reggie Nelson was clearly our biggest weakness in 2017, and Gruden just handed him the starting position.. makes me worry about his love for vets. The raiders knew Penn was injured and would miss time, yet didnt bring in any vet to help out our 2 rookies. Just our Oline in general, is clearly Power blocking, and we seemed determined to run zone. Jalen Rashard should have earned more playing time earlier on, but Lynch was running well, still think he should have utilized Jalen more. After the Coop trade we fielded a bunch of scrubs/ rookies at WR2. 

Setting us up for the future: Id give a B+/A- tons of draft capital.. but we lost 2 proven players. Mainly Mack, but we all knew the potential Coop had as well. Will see how he uses it.


All in all - Id give him a C. But that is just strictly assuming this was all part of the plan and was supposed to be a rebuild year. I believe he had control of the locker room, and the players seemed to play hard for him. Next year will be a big year, I dont expect us to be ready to compete, but I expect us to be in every game, a year liek the browns this year. He will be out of excuses.
Carr in 2nd year.
Tons of FA money
3 first round draft picks.

Gruden thinks of himself as an offensive mastermind, DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON O, if this is the case. If you are such a genius on O, make it work with young players and role players. Spend early draft picks and the bulk of FA on the D side. 
 

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Most definitely an F. He may have been dealt a bad hand but we were horrible. Maybe he had to trade Mack because he wanted too much money but you better be god damn sure carr is worth the money before you give up on a hall of famer like Mack. And obviously it doesn’t seem like he’s sold on carr. I have some blind hope gruden can steer us in the right direction but he’s got a lot of work to do to make it up to me personally after he traded away my favorite player (possibly of all time) 

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See here’s the weird thing about the Carr/Mack thing.

lets say that the raiders extended Mack, if Carr had a bad season or if you didn’t believe in him then you cut Carr with no cap hit. You’d still have Carr and then you could do the SEA/PHI/LA things with a strong defense and a young QB. 

They bet on Carr so now they gotta roll with him. 

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I like the draft

  • Drafted starting LT never sexy pick
  • shored up DT with Hurst and Hall
  • Kicker for the next Decade, Carlson
  • Key, Parker, Nelson all promising 
  • Cabinda and Ateman should be good depth 

Added a couple good vets in free agency

  • Nelson
  • Lefell
  • Martin
  • Whitehead
  • Worely

Acquired 2 future 1sts, and other picks....

 

This team needed direction and an overhaul, so a solid C

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8 hours ago, Humble_Beast said:

I like the draft

  • Drafted starting LT never sexy pick
  • shored up DT with Hurst and Hall
  • Kicker for the next Decade, Carlson
  • Key, Parker, Nelson all promising 
  • Cabinda and Ateman should be good depth 

Added a couple good vets in free agency

  • Nelson
  • Lefell
  • Martin
  • Whitehead
  • Worely

Acquired 2 future 1sts, and other picks....

 

This team needed direction and an overhaul, so a solid C

They didn't draft Carlson

Key, Parker and Nelson really flashed next to nothing to be excited about their futures

Whitehead is a terrible LB and should be cut

 

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