sdrawkcab321 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 He’s a #localboy @Bonanza23 must have a stiffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, jonnytwoshoes said: for comparison, PFF's Vikings ST grades for last 4 years: 2018: 3rd 2017: 2nd 2016: 7th 2015: 3rd Regardless, a home run compared to freaking Amos. Average it out between the two and let’s say top 10 ....I’ll freaking take it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, BrownLeader said: Y'know... he'd probably bring Holcomb with him. And to give him even a bit of pass for not calling plays doesn't hold up. It's his defense and his handpicked coordinator. Cardinals defense was just as terrible as the offense to start last season. They eventually got competitive so I guess you could say it was an adjustment to the scheme. Idk. For me it would be a meh hire but there don't appear to be any great candidates out there, so..... (Besides my choice of Jets DB coach 😊) Not every great position coach is a great HC. In the same way, not every great position coach is a great Coordinator. Al Holcolmb is a fantastic LB coach. That's the role he'd serve here. Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis raved about his positional coaching. The Cardinals were 7th in Pass Defense Efficiency; 29th in run. So, it's not completely accurate to say they were terrible at all aspects of defense. You're absolutely right the head coach does not get a complete pass for how one side of the ball does, but context does matter. And so does who actually doing the play-calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Who cares how PFF grades Special Teams. They are not transparent with their methodology. Special Teams Efficiency DVOA is the trusted statistic that we have many years of comparison and predictive efficacy data on. Vikings DVOA Special Teams Efficency Mike Priefer Vikings ST 2011-2018 DVOA Special Teams Efficency Rankings 2018 20th 2017 18th 2016 10th 2015 4th 2014 10th 2013 6th 2012 5th 2011 27th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hell, if we even rise to 20th in ST, that's a huge improvement over what we've had in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, DawgX said: Hell, if we even rise to 20th in ST, that's a huge improvement over what we've had in recent years. 20th means you made some plays at some point during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: He’s not tabor or Amos. Sooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrownsman Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Who cares how PFF grades Special Teams. They are not transparent with their methodology. Special Teams Efficiency DVOA is the trusted statistic that we have many years of comparison and predictive efficacy data on. Vikings DVOA Special Teams Efficency Mike Priefer Vikings ST 2011-2018 DVOA Special Teams Efficency Rankings 2018 20th 2017 18th 2016 10th 2015 4th 2014 10th 2013 6th 2012 5th 2011 27th DVOA numbers are important but also play into the personnel who are on your squad. I took a deeper look into his ST numbers for the teams he's coached... In 2006 Mike Priefer took over as special teams coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs... In 2005 KC's ST DVOA was 23rd. After Priefer took over it was 13th in 2006, 24th in 2007, and 30th in 2008. (immediate improvement but went down hill after) After he left KC their ST DVOA was 27th in 2009. In 2009 he took over as Special Teams coordinator of the Denver Broncos... In 2008 Denver's ST DVOA was 31st. after he took over it was 18th in 2009, and 27th in 2010. After he left Denver, thier ST DVOA became 18th in the league. In 2011 he took over as special teams coordinator of the Minnesota vikings. in 2010 Denver's ST DVOA was 19th. AFter he took over it became 27th in 2011, 5th in 2012, 6th in 2013, 10th in 2014, I dont know why I'm typing this read above. He generally seems to do more good than he does harm. I will say this he has never been fired for his work, hes only been fired because of head coaching changes or most recently was asked to re-sign with the vikings but turned down the offer to come home to Cleveland. I'm excited for the difference he HAS to make over Amos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, sdrawkcab321 said: He’s a #localboy @Bonanza23 must have a stiffy 🎶🎵🎶 He’s coming home he’s coming home...🎵🎶🎵 Heck yeah it gives me a stiffy. He immediately becomes the best special teams coordinator we’ve ever had because of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 A 20th ranked ST would have won us two more games just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Priefer is a good get. We’re gonna put together an epic coaching staff. sounds like we might interview spag too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Spags, Pagano, Wilks are all decent coach’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Browns working on a deal with former Arizona HC Steve Wilks to be their new DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, jonnytwoshoes said: Regardless, a grand slam home run compared to freaking Amos. fify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Browns have hired former Arizona HC Steve Wilks as their new DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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