Jeremy408 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I was all over Holland too. I called him being a stud and someone who we should target in the 2nd round if he was on the baord. i do remember this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Chargers loss opens the door again for the Raiders to take control over the division 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Face a real QB with real weapons and our D doesn't look all that much better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Face a real QB with real weapons and our D doesn't look all that much better than last year. The problem really is what the linebackers are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: The problem really is what the linebackers are doing offense going 1-9 on 3rd downs doesn’t help 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: offense going 1-9 on 3rd downs doesn’t help Thanks for pointing this out. People want to give Carr a pass because he makes some splash plays in the passing game, which is great. However, Carr has serious issues with consistency on third down and executing in the red zone. It's masked by some big time throws that he make. Yes the defense sucked, but the offense needs to keep them off the damn field. 1 for 9 on third down is asking to much of your defense. Carr and this offense have won games making splash plays and quick scores. They lose games when they have to grind out drives and move chains consistently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Thanks for pointing this out. People want to give Carr a pass because he makes some splash plays in the passing game, which is great. However, Carr has serious issues with consistency on third down and executing in the red zone. It's masked by some big time throws that he make. Yes the defense sucked, but the offense needs to keep them off the damn field. 1 for 9 on third down is asking to much of your defense. Carr and this offense have won games making splash plays and quick scores. They lose games when they have to grind out drives and move chains consistently. Completely agree that the offense struggled and needs to be better. Carr does not get a pass in my book. He went into press mode(which always ends badly) because of the way things were unfolding. However, he and the rest of the offense have nothing to do with the defense unable to get off the field. The offense didn't put them in a bunch of bad situations or short fields. The defense gave up multiple 10+ play TD drives and that is on them. You want off the field and to stay rested, then make a stop. Neither side helped the other in this game and clearly showed on the scoreboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 1:56 PM, Frankie2Gunz said: I was all over Holland too. I called him being a stud and someone who we should target in the 2nd round if he was on the baord. I remember alot of people had Grant higher than Holland on here. I guess because he was a mid 20s prospect who looked good in a bad conference people wanted grant lol... Moehrig was a solid second round pick. Should be a solid starter the rest of decade. Holland looks to have a higher ceiling, could see him becoming an all pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just watched the Eagles Broncos game and wow, Teddy Bridgewater just completely sh@t out after the late fumble, had a chance to stop the DB returning it for a score and just pretended to be hurt instead......😂😂 Funny stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 7:47 AM, big_palooka said: Carr and this offense have won games making splash plays and quick scores. They lose games when they have to grind out drives and move chains consistently. And outside of the Chiefs game our defense has given us a chance to tie/win at the end despite our offensive struggles. Against the Chargers we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 21-14, against the Bears we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 17-9, and against the Giants we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 20-16 (Carr threw a pick, they kicked a FG) and 23-16 but weren't able to score. Even in the Chiefs game we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 24-14, driving, before Jackson's fumble completely swung the momentum. We've been held under 20 in 4/6 weeks, we were only held under 20 twice all of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 hours ago, NYRaider said: And outside of the Chiefs game our defense has given us a chance to tie/win at the end despite our offensive struggles. Against the Chargers we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 21-14, against the Bears we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 17-9, and against the Giants we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 20-16 (Carr threw a pick, they kicked a FG) and 23-16 but weren't able to score. Even in the Chiefs game we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 24-14, driving, before Jackson's fumble completely swung the momentum. We've been held under 20 in 4/6 weeks, we were only held under 20 twice all of last season. 🎯 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 7:47 AM, big_palooka said: Thanks for pointing this out. People want to give Carr a pass because he makes some splash plays in the passing game, which is great. However, Carr has serious issues with consistency on third down and executing in the red zone. It's masked by some big time throws that he make. Yes the defense sucked, but the offense needs to keep them off the damn field. 1 for 9 on third down is asking to much of your defense. Carr and this offense have won games making splash plays and quick scores. They lose games when they have to grind out drives and move chains consistently. 🎯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy408 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, oakdb36 said: On record I never said it was stupid to sign him last; I thought it was stupid to sign only him last year and expect him to be the savior of the pass rush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 4:27 AM, NYRaider said: And outside of the Chiefs game our defense has given us a chance to tie/win at the end despite our offensive struggles. Against the Chargers we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 21-14, against the Bears we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 17-9, and against the Giants we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 20-16 (Carr threw a pick, they kicked a FG) and 23-16 but weren't able to score. Even in the Chiefs game we had the ball in the 4th quarter down 24-14, driving, before Jackson's fumble completely swung the momentum. We've been held under 20 in 4/6 weeks, we were only held under 20 twice all of last season. Agreed. I would say that this last week is what’s been happening all season on offense but the defense wasn’t able to keep it close for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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