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1 hour ago, mistakey said:

yeah but in this case the incel often reads virgin

oh.  Well, I didn't love any of the girls I have been with, so it doesn't count... 

 

The biggest problem with these fellows is that they really have a position that I am sympathetic toward, on the surface.  Yeah, it sucks that you don't get the girl that you want.  Happens to me on the regular.  It is disappointing when you put some effort into something but get no reward.  But then comes the extra baggage that I just can't continue to feel for their position.

I think part of it is not having some sort of self awareness on the standards that you set for yourself.  If you are a 5, you probably aren't going to get a 9, and at the same time, you are probably turning down 2s and 3s in the same manner that the 9s are dismissing you.  So you have two choices, lower your standards or get laid less than you would like.  Speaking as a 6, that doesn't lower his standards, I know that I won't have a date on Valentine's day, and that is okay.  Nobody needs to get hurt because of it.  

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2 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said:

oh.  Well, I didn't love any of the girls I have been with, so it doesn't count... 

 

The biggest problem with these fellows is that they really have a position that I am sympathetic toward, on the surface.  Yeah, it sucks that you don't get the girl that you want.  Happens to me on the regular.  It is disappointing when you put some effort into something but get no reward.  But then comes the extra baggage that I just can't continue to feel for their position.

I think part of it is not having some sort of self awareness on the standards that you set for yourself.  If you are a 5, you probably aren't going to get a 9, and at the same time, you are probably turning down 2s and 3s in the same manner that the 9s are dismissing you.  So you have two choices, lower your standards or get laid less than you would like.  Speaking as a 6, that doesn't lower his standards, I know that I won't have a date on Valentine's day, and that is okay.  Nobody needs to get hurt because of it.  

Yeah getting rejected is relatavble.  Acting like this isnt

 

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8 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said:

Speaking as a 6, that doesn't lower his standards, I know that I won't have a date on Valentine's day, and that is okay.  Nobody needs to get hurt because of it.  

Dont lower your standards tbh.  Raise yourself.

Six pack + six figures is never gonna be a 6 no matter how ugly your face is and neither is very hard in this day and age tbh.

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1 hour ago, pwny said:

The entire way their brains are wired is just weird. "Hey, I said you were cute and let you copy my homework, you deserve to be murdered if that didn't make you fall in love with me".

Sorta how I felt when you canceled the TASTYs tbh

Will you be my valentine? 

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3 hours ago, mission27 said:

Dont lower your standards tbh.  Raise yourself.

Six pack + six figures is never gonna be a 6 no matter how ugly your face is and neither is very hard in this day and age tbh.

No doubt. Most of what I say is self deprecating humor.  Though I do need to work on that six pack.

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What you are seeing is the result of men who grew up sitting at home playing video games and watching internet porn. They never learned how to talk to girls. They never learned to deal with rejection. They are emotionally and socially stunted and blame the world for it rather than themselves. And would rather wallow in bitter misery than actually work on things. 

I have a family member that fits what I described to a T. He posts all kinds of "nobody likes me, boohoo," crap. Today it was, "Boohoo, I am alone again on valentines day". I am sitting here with my head spinning like I am in an alternate universe. I am like, "DUDE! You are 27 years old and still live at home, where all you do all day is eat and play video games. OF COURSE YOU ARE ALONE ON VALENTINES DAY!"

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8 hours ago, Non-Issue said:

What you are seeing is the result of men who grew up sitting at home playing video games and watching internet porn. They never learned how to talk to girls. They never learned to deal with rejection. They are emotionally and socially stunted and blame the world for it rather than themselves. And would rather wallow in bitter misery than actually work on things. 

I have a family member that fits what I described to a T. He posts all kinds of "nobody likes me, boohoo," crap. Today it was, "Boohoo, I am alone again on valentines day". I am sitting here with my head spinning like I am in an alternate universe. I am like, "DUDE! You are 27 years old and still live at home, where all you do all day is eat and play video games. OF COURSE YOU ARE ALONE ON VALENTINES DAY!"

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Yeah I agree to some extent.  That being said playing video games in college with bros and finding torrents of porn didn’t turn me into an incel.  There’s some other factor- maybe it’s an entitled/victim mentality created by an online toxic community of bad faith actors and/or miserable people.  Maybe it’s the invention of online gaming so people don’t have to go over to other peoples houses to play video games. Maybe they always existed and we just never noticed them before because they didn’t kill people until they martyred Elliot Rodger.  Shrug 

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seems like a lot to do with accelerating this "movement" would be the ease of online communicating today, as it allows these one time solitary individuals to find each other and have more of a voice in numbers.

basically they can whine to each other and promote each other's sick views.

 

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I think dudes like this have probably always existed. It's just that the internet makes them easier to spot, along with the internet's ability to help them gain a sense of infamy if they commit a mass shooting or some other heinous crime. Some men are just straight bad at talking to women, so if they're naturally an aggressive person, then it's not a shock that they may feel the need to express that anger and resentment. One must be truly socially inept if you can't get laid in today's age with the existence of dating apps.

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On 2/15/2019 at 11:01 PM, Fl0nkerton said:

A lot of the extreme cases are usually attributed to mental illness. Diagnosing specifics is in its infancy, so it's pretty tough to nail down and catch on early.

That Eliot Rodger dude was prescribed an anti-psychotic and just refused to take it. 

Yeah I think this is very on point.  The brain don’t click right.  

 

I also think that it’s a form of radicalization.  

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On 1/14/2019 at 7:46 AM, PapaShogun said:

"Put down the bear claw. Stop being fat". 

Good idea for a t-shirt. Too bad you'd get crucified if you wore it out in public.

"Maybe put down the bear claw. Pick up the salad."

You would still be "fat shamed."  There was a group of people who were threatening to boycott the Suicide Squad movie because they didn't pick a plus-size actress to play Harley Quinn.....despite the fact that she's never been portrayed as that before in any medium whatsoever.  

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