Non-Issue Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, pwny said: If taking in fewer calories than you burn doesn’t cause someone to lose weight, how exactly are they burning more calories? Where are these calories coming from that they’re burning? Are all calories the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 5:21 PM, Heimdallr said: CICO is an indisputable law, even that Heathline article doesn't argue that. All they are trying to say in that article is that different foods have different hormone/insulin impacts, which makes maintaining calorie levels either easier/harder. Such a poorly written, contradictory article. And again - this. The article is saying that 500 calories of lettuce will satiate you longer than 500 calories of pure sugar, and this will be easier to stick to a below maintenance level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, pwny said: And again - this. The article is saying that 500 calories of lettuce will satiate you longer than 500 calories of pure sugar, and this will be easier to stick to a below maintenance level. I posted numerous articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, Non-Issue said: I posted numerous articles. And they’re all saying the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, pwny said: And they’re all saying the same thing. Yeahhhhh..... but kinda not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Non-Issue said: Are all calories the same? Does every calorie activate the same processes in the body? No. Does every calorie satiate you the same? No. Does every calorie impact overall health the same? No. Does every calorie have the same impact on body fat? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Non-Issue said: Yeahhhhh..... but kinda not really. Show me where, in any of those articles, they state that dropping calories below maintenance doesn’t reduce body fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, pwny said: Does every calorie activate the same processes in the body? No. Does every calorie satiate you the same? No. Does every calorie impact overall health the same? No. Does every calorie have the same impact on body fat? Yes. What about Diet Coke? I heard that negatively affects weight loss even though it has 0 calories because it tricks your body into thinking that its sweetener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, pwny said: Does every calorie activate the same processes in the body? No. Does every calorie satiate you the same? No. Does every calorie impact overall health the same? No. Does every calorie have the same impact on body fat? Yes. We have all gotten past understanding that no matter who you are, Auschwitz will make you skinny. I am talking about the diet in practical terms. I am not denying the most basic science of it. I am saying a simple CICO diet, practically applied by every american, is not going to always see success. Because "less in, more out" isnt enough. Remember, the original argument was that "fat is all calories in, calories out" that I argued against, saying it was more complicated than that. Not so much weight, but FAT. And it has morphed into some quasi hostile argument involving "fatties" and Auschwitz inmates and people dying on hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, pwny said: Show me where, in any of those articles, they state that dropping calories below maintenance doesn’t reduce body fat. Body fat or weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Malfatron said: What about Diet Coke? I heard that negatively affects weight loss even though it has 0 calories because it tricks your body into thinking that its sweetener If you drank a Diet Coke on top of your exact same diet, it wouldn’t change your weight. However, the mechanisms in the sweeteners are going to make you more likely to eat more food because your body is expecting simple sugars that aren’t actually there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, pwny said: However, the mechanisms in the sweeteners are going to make you more likely to eat more foot because your body is expecting simple sugars that aren’t actually there. so, Rex Ryan drinks a lot of Diet Coke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, Malfatron said: so, Rex Ryan drinks a lot of Diet Coke Dammit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Non-Issue said: Body fat or weight? Whichever option you feel best applies to the concept being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Non-Issue said: Are all calories the same? A calorie is a measure of energy. You are talking about types of foods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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