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It's time for all of you to stop acting like something major isn't happening and start speculating on what they're doing. 

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“Well I have a vision for a way to do something with that character [Batman] that feels like it resonates with me personally, and a perspective that can grow out into other things,” Reeves said. “When they [Warner Bros.] approached me, what they said was ‘look, it’s a standalone, it’s not part of the extended universe.’”


 
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Just now, OleXmad said:

I'm guessing they said that before they actually came to a deal, until something is actually confirmed it's all just speculation. 

:lol:

When are people going to stop saying it's all speculation and start adding all this up?

Affleck steps down as director, whole new script, Casey Affleck says Ben isn't doing it after numerous "leaks" and scoops about him not doing it, The Joker not being part of the DCEU, this not being part of it, reshoots for Justice League, and finally The Flash gets called FlashPoint. 

One of those is speculation.  Add them all up and it's clear WB either doesn't know what in the hell they're doing, or we're in for a soft reboot or a hard reboot.  Unless you think they're going to have two Batman continuities going on at the same time. 

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Just now, HorizontoZenith said:

:lol:

When are people going to stop saying it's all speculation and start adding all this up?

Affleck steps down as director, whole new script, Casey Affleck says Ben isn't doing it after numerous "leaks" and scoops about him not doing it, The Joker not being part of the DCEU, this not being part of it, reshoots for Justice League, and finally The Flash gets called FlashPoint. 

One of those is speculation.  Add them all up and it's clear WB either doesn't know what in the hell they're doing, or we're in for a soft reboot or a hard reboot.  Unless you think they're going to have two Batman continuities going on at the same time. 

I think WB is waiting to see what happens with Justice League before they make a major decision on "the batman" series. 

As for reeves saying what he said, it's a quote from a podcast (worth a listen) and I doubt he's even started working on the scripts so for right now it's just news sites taking a quote and saying "OH NO BATMAN NOT CONNECTED TO DCEU" because it gets clicks. Yeah it's a great story but there really isn't that much to it aside from the quote.

The Joker thing, they've announced so many movies at this point until it's actually in production I'll believe it when I see it that's not part of the DCEU.

https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/the-business/director-matt-reeves-on-war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes (Said podcast)

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4 minutes ago, seminoles1 said:

I only read that as "You don't have to worry about connecting to other movies.  Make your story and we'll worry about the rest."  Similar to Logan.

I got a similar vibe. It doesn't have to connect to other movies especially if it's going to be a prequel as rumored.

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1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said:

:lol:

When are people going to stop saying it's all speculation and start adding all this up?

Affleck steps down as director, whole new script, Casey Affleck says Ben isn't doing it after numerous "leaks" and scoops about him not doing it, The Joker not being part of the DCEU, this not being part of it, reshoots for Justice League, and finally The Flash gets called FlashPoint. 

One of those is speculation.  Add them all up and it's clear WB either doesn't know what in the hell they're doing, or we're in for a soft reboot or a hard reboot.  Unless you think they're going to have two Batman continuities going on at the same time. 

No offense, but not sure how youre calling people out about saying its speculation when pretty much everything youre say is.....wait for it.....speculation.   

Im not defending WB.   Im sick of the uncertainty, flip flopping and lack of overall direction the DCEU has.....but youve been pushing the reboot angle for awhile now and there is STILL nothing to support it.     And I am not even opposed to a potential soft reboot if Ben isnt coming back, but your points dont really mean its happening....

Ben stepping down as director doesnt necessarily mean anything in regards to his on screen character.    From what has been stated, the studio wasnt on board with a few things regarding the story and direction, so maybe it was just easier to move on and let someone else take a shot.

Casey Affleck's comment seemed all over the place and didnt even seem sure.   All the leaks youre talking about have been RUMORS.....and there have been many many incorrect rumors.

The Joker....we will see.   Too early to say, but Im not happy about it if it moves forward in that direction.

Reshoots of the Justice League literally mean nothing except the studio probably wasnt comfortable with Zack Snyders final cut winning over fans.   Has no bearing on Ben or a potential reboot.

Flashpoint could obviously be a way to retcon things if needed, but that doesnt NECESSARILY mean its going to affect Ben..

Bottom line.....it could be a soft reboot, but at this point, that is largely speculation as well.    And if the Batman movies arent part of the DCEU, then it really doesnt matter, because that (on top of other things) would tell me WB is completely clueless.

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1 hour ago, seminoles1 said:

I only read that as "You don't have to worry about connecting to other movies.  Make your story and we'll worry about the rest."  Similar to Logan.

Not really a great example, since one of the biggest gripes about the XMen cinematic universe is the incohesiveness and lack of continuity.     The XMen universe is already messed up in terms of continuity and Logan was largely a standalone film in the distant future.

Dont get me wrong....if they are saying "just make the movie and we'll sort out any possible continuity issues". then thats okay, as long as it doesnt veer too far away from the character and stories that have already been established.    BUT....that is completely different from saying its not part of the DCEU, which means it doesnt have any place within the events that unfold in that universe and is its own seperate thing.   If thats what happens, WB may as well just scrap the entire universe and either start over or just let it rest for awhile.

It almost seems like they MIGHT be taking the approach of their animated films.....meaning, maybe just making a bunch of movies that tell stories, but arent entirely connected.

Its too early to say anything for sure.   Im not very optimistic about the future of the DCEU anymore, though.   Just seems like they are out of touch with what fans want, or maybe its ego or plan old idiocy.     I dont know.

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1 hour ago, FourThreeMafia said:

No offense, but not sure how youre calling people out about saying its speculation when pretty much everything youre say is.....wait for it.....speculation.

I had a poor choice of words there.  I meant to suggest that people need to stop acting acting like DC has fixed their ship, or stop acting like they're not going to use FlashPoint to right the ship.

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6 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said:

I had a poor choice of words there.  I meant to suggest that people need to stop acting acting like DC has fixed their ship, or stop acting like they're not going to use FlashPoint to right the ship.

Fair enough.    I can somewhat agree with that.    

It just amazes me that they are still so clueless.   I dont want to come across like I have all the answers about what people would like, but WB just seems to be making it up as they go, and thats not going to work.

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If this and the Joker thing turn out to be true, the best way they can approach it is via the multiverse.

In other words....

Keep the current DCEU going as is until the Flashpoint movie, and retcon whatever needs fixed.   If Affleck WERE to leave....then just find a way to slide the new, possibly younger Batman into the current DCEU.     If Ben Affleck does stay on

The Batman movie and Joker movie (which I still hope doesnt happen) NEED to be part of the overall cinematic universe, but not necessarily part of the CURRENT universe....meaning, the current universe could be taking place on Earth One, while The Batman and Joker are prequels that take place on Earth Two.   This would allow Reeves to basically do whatever he wants, but the connection between the CINEMATIC universe remains in tact.  

Either way, this all a huge mess.    They shouldve had a plan going into this, and all this is revealing is that they really didnt.   

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